Desert Ryder

3 doses in and I haven't had any real side effects I think I might be good....

zacster

Good luck with it. I was in Mexico a couple of weeks ago and got Montezuma's revenge, and that wasn't nearly as bad as my reaction to Metformin!

Jughed

Been to a few docs about my T2 - all of them basically said the same thing. The disease is progressive, you will be on meds for the rest of your life, and you will need more meds. Eat the ADA recommended 60 grams of carbs per meal (which would send my BG's into the 500+ range), buy these test strips and meter, test 12x per day, take this metformin, stick yourself with insulin, both long and short acting, as needed to counteract the carbs - but carry these sugar tablets incase you go low - going low can kill you... or, buy this $$$$ insulin pump and it will do the work for you. And you will need more insulin over time as the disease progresses.

The internet - yep, the internet - helped with not only the side effects of meds - it helped explain the mechanisms behind the disease and how it isn't necessarily progressive and that you may not need meds at all.

5+ years free of any meds and T2 (remission) - from BG's in the 400+/A1C of 12 range to normal numbers - because of what I read on the internet.

OldTryGuy

r.e. bolding Maybe pdlamb might not have had an illness where the information from individuals suffering a like illness has not only been helpful in the medical perspective but also the very personal aspect showing the person enquiring that they are not alone in illness or side effects or psychological dealings.

This month marks 9 years since being told you have PCa (Prostate Cancer) and it IS NOT the type that most men live with and then die of something else but instead is GLEASON 10 the one where if you are lucky you might just die of something else so we start treating this way.

r.e. jughed's -- *The INTERNET,* certainly has a wealth of knowledgeable individuals WHO ARE NOT DOCTORS but spend massive amounts of time researching and compiling and reporting on many findings that PCP's and even Specialists have not been updated on. I am very glad to have the NET to access

Polaris OBark

They are going to start clinical trials to see if it extends life expectancy and lowers risk of cardiovascular disease in non-diabetics:

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...ne-if-it-works


good luck!

MoAlpha

For better or worse, providers treat what they see, and that's a sick population where major behavioral modification is extremely difficult. Guys like you are outliers.

As for the internet, you certainly seem to have filtered out the nonsense and put good info to good use. It would nice if this were more common than I think it is.

Jughed

Part of it is 15 min appointments… which includes the nurse taking vitals. You see the doc for about 5 min when you need an hour.

MoAlpha

Undoubtedly and I think that’s only one of many economic limitations on care.

RH Clark

He is only an outlier in that he actually did what was necessary to control and reverse his insulin insensitivity. He is not an outlier in that what he did won't work for anyone.

fat biker

It took me most of a year to lose 20+pounds of unsightly belly fat. I attribute most of that to intermittent fasting.
My wife died in November and I pretty much stopped thinking about my weight, did not even look at a scale for months.
Two weeks ago my new denim shorts would not button. Got on the scale at 196. Another speed bump in the road of life.
My wife was type 2 diabetic for probably 12 years which has no doubt contributed to my terror at becoming diabetic.
My A1C has risen slightly from 5.0 to 5.2 and I am paying attention.

Desert Ryder
Diet, exercise and education.

Luck,
fat biker

RH Clark

Yes, the intermittent fasting helped. T2 is caused by too much insulin being used by the body too often. When we consume high glycemic foods too often our body has to produce higher levels of insulin than optimal to lower sugar levels. The higher insulin causes sugar to plumet triggering even more hunger and need to eat more sugar to get blood back to normal. Eat high sugar foods again and it becomes a vicious cycle of up and down blood sugar swings causing massive weight gain and inflammation as well as insensitivity to insulin.

The increased exposure to insulin causes the body to build tolerance or insensitivity. At some point the body can no longer produce enough insulin to lower blood sugar. This is called T2 diabetes.

The solution is lower glycemic foods or longer durations between meals so that less exposure to insulin is necessary. Over time the body will regain some sensitivity to insulin so that it isn't necessary to produce so much to accomplish the same thing.