Trek Domane vs Trek Madone
03-31-12, 08:03 AM
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Heard the Synapse is about done. Didn't notice that much difference from the Domane to the Madone in the geo. Some but not night and day for sure.
03-31-12, 10:50 AM
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I configured a custom Domane 6 online. I think it looks decently sharp.
I'm hoping to build up another bike in the next year or so for centuries and climbing. This might be a contender.
Yeah, I know. Black on Black on Black. But all that white bothers me.
Oh yeah, price as configured with Force is $4787. A bit steep for me, but I wonder what just the frameset would cost...
I'm hoping to build up another bike in the next year or so for centuries and climbing. This might be a contender.
Yeah, I know. Black on Black on Black. But all that white bothers me.
Oh yeah, price as configured with Force is $4787. A bit steep for me, but I wonder what just the frameset would cost...
That seat tube is interesting, but I bet it would drive me insane.
03-31-12, 11:45 AM
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Seems like a smart move to me -- if anything, they should've done something like this years ago.
The plush/endurance bikes are selling well, and work well for lots of riders, especially older riders. The elastomers, wider forks and so forth are enough to distinguish it from the Madone series.
The big problem I see is that according to Bike Radar, they'll start at $4500. That's pretty steep compared to a lot of the other plush bikes out there. It'll take some time before it's truly cost-competitive.
The plush/endurance bikes are selling well, and work well for lots of riders, especially older riders. The elastomers, wider forks and so forth are enough to distinguish it from the Madone series.
The big problem I see is that according to Bike Radar, they'll start at $4500. That's pretty steep compared to a lot of the other plush bikes out there. It'll take some time before it's truly cost-competitive.
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So after taking a closer look, the guy at Trek is wrong on his thoughts about this bike being the replacement to the Madone. A little worried about the IsoSpeed Decoupler about giving out after a few miles, but after thinking about all the testing in-factory and out on the cobbles, I guess it will last for a long time if ridden on regular pavement. Trek says it should last as long as the life of the bike. So does that mean that if the BB90 shell breaks off, so will the decoupler? 
Anyway, it looks like I found my bike. It's a sign having my name in it - "Dom" - Ah - nee. LOL j/k I have to wait until it trickles down to the 5 or maybe the 4 Series. And hopefully things would settle down by then - (next year).
Side note: Yep. I didn't go with the November because I have to reserve as muc funds as possible due to some family related issues. So I can wait... So far, prelims shows much promise.
Anyway, it looks like I found my bike. It's a sign having my name in it - "Dom" - Ah - nee. LOL j/k I have to wait until it trickles down to the 5 or maybe the 4 Series. And hopefully things would settle down by then - (next year). Side note: Yep. I didn't go with the November because I have to reserve as muc funds as possible due to some family related issues. So I can wait... So far, prelims shows much promise.
03-31-12, 11:53 AM
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The $4,500 starting price is a 6 Series. I'm waiting for it to trickle down. Unless I win the lotto or something - that didn't happen after last night's Mega draw.
03-31-12, 12:17 PM
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Yep. I'm sure Trek has their plans set for how quickly a Domane 3.1 will be up against the low $2,000-range Defy, Roubaix, Synapse (and so on) models.
Late summer this year would kind of surprise me a bit-- model year 2013. I suspect they will milk the 6 series longer.
But after that, I could see the 5, 4, 3 series all coming at once or staggered over time.
Late summer this year would kind of surprise me a bit-- model year 2013. I suspect they will milk the 6 series longer.
But after that, I could see the 5, 4, 3 series all coming at once or staggered over time.
03-31-12, 01:20 PM
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Just another thing to squeak and creak.
03-31-12, 05:08 PM
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I agree it's going to take time to trickle down. Maybe that means recouping on their investment faster, but it may also mean another year or two where Trek continues to lose sales in that particular segment.
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04-13-12, 11:49 AM
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Domane:
Seat tube angle 73.3
Effective top tube 55.4cm
Head tube 17.5cm
Trail 6.1cm
Fork offset (rake) 4.8cm
Head tube angle 71.9
Wheelbase 101.0cm
Chainstay length 42cm
Bottom bracket drop 7.8cm
Madone:
Seat tube angle 73.3
Effective top tube 56cm
Head tube 14cm
Trail 5.8cm
Fork offset (rake) 4.0cm
Head tube angle 73.5
Wheelbase 98.3cm
Chainstay length 41cm
Bottom bracket drop 7.0cm
Seat tube angle 73.3
Effective top tube 55.4cm
Head tube 17.5cm
Trail 6.1cm
Fork offset (rake) 4.8cm
Head tube angle 71.9
Wheelbase 101.0cm
Chainstay length 42cm
Bottom bracket drop 7.8cm
Madone:
Seat tube angle 73.3
Effective top tube 56cm
Head tube 14cm
Trail 5.8cm
Fork offset (rake) 4.0cm
Head tube angle 73.5
Wheelbase 98.3cm
Chainstay length 41cm
Bottom bracket drop 7.0cm
04-13-12, 01:03 PM
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those numbers, i think, should produce a different ride. especially that slack headtube angle.
04-13-12, 01:20 PM
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By the fork rake and head tube angle numbers, the Domane will handle slower, and it will have a lower center of gravity due to the lower bottom bracket. Kind of like a "tight" touring frame; a touring frame without the excessive wheel clearance and rack attachments.
You basically have a slower handling, more stable version of their Madone. I doubt it is "plush" in the sense of riding bike trails plush. It looks like it is oriented towards long distance light touring. Probably fits the recreational rider market better than a pure racing frame. Sounds like it would make an awesome randonneuring bike.
You basically have a slower handling, more stable version of their Madone. I doubt it is "plush" in the sense of riding bike trails plush. It looks like it is oriented towards long distance light touring. Probably fits the recreational rider market better than a pure racing frame. Sounds like it would make an awesome randonneuring bike.
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04-16-12, 11:17 AM
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So all these Trek Domane vs Trek Madone things I've read, do they mean the Madone isn't a good bike for long rides or the Domane is a better bike for long rides?
04-16-12, 11:24 AM
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Madone is a fine bike for long rides. It's about optimization more than anything. The geometry of the Madone is optimized for pack handling and speed while the geometry of the Domane looks to be optimized for solo excursions and rough roads. Both might be considered "all day" bikes. The pros are using the Domane because the rough roads of some of the spring classics makes the faster handling bikes more tiring to ride over the distance. Tight handling is fine with smooth roads, but when you are bouncing over cobbles, it's probably good to have a bike that handles a bit slower.
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04-16-12, 01:55 PM
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trek surely did this for the value of the anagram of 'madone' and 'domane'.
domini is pronounced dough-ma-knee and it means Lord.
I'm anxiously awaiting the Jesus theme on Trek's Project One site. We have Spartacus and Nissan-Trek, but clearly the bike needs some bling from its namesake.
domini is pronounced dough-ma-knee and it means Lord.
I'm anxiously awaiting the Jesus theme on Trek's Project One site. We have Spartacus and Nissan-Trek, but clearly the bike needs some bling from its namesake.
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