Replacing Cassette... Should I buy a new chain too?
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Replacing Cassette... Should I buy a new chain too?
Cassette - Shimano 105 HG700-11, 11-34
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
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Your chain should last you at least twice as long. Pick up a chain stretch tool to periodically check wear, even if it's just a simple one like this -
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What WhyFi wrote. I'm going to start saying, "Hey, don't strain your chain" to people when they'e annoyed with me.
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Sure.. pick up a new chain and install it. Chains are consumables so no harm done buying one. Just keep the old one too, as it has a good amount of life left in it.
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Yeah man buy a new chain, to me they’re cheap.
Get a Dura Ace one while you’re at it. Gotta have at least one DA component on there.
Change your bar tape (and wrap it yourself). That’s cheap (relatively) as well and is fun. Makes the bike feel new again.
I really like Supacaz but also use Zipp Service Course CX quite a bit too.
Have fun! I (probably wrongly) think bikes are supposed to be fun.
Or perhaps fun for you might be smugly talking about how long you can make things last. Or sneering at people who spend (more than you think they should) on bike stuff. Perhaps condescension and smirkey know-it all contempt makes your special purpose tingle so that might be your idea of a good time.
At any rate...Enjoy.
Get a Dura Ace one while you’re at it. Gotta have at least one DA component on there.
Change your bar tape (and wrap it yourself). That’s cheap (relatively) as well and is fun. Makes the bike feel new again.
I really like Supacaz but also use Zipp Service Course CX quite a bit too.
Have fun! I (probably wrongly) think bikes are supposed to be fun.
Or perhaps fun for you might be smugly talking about how long you can make things last. Or sneering at people who spend (more than you think they should) on bike stuff. Perhaps condescension and smirkey know-it all contempt makes your special purpose tingle so that might be your idea of a good time.
At any rate...Enjoy.
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Cassette - Shimano 105 HG700-11, 11-34
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
But whenever you change your cassette ALWAYS install a new chain. Stretched chains wear out cassettes posthaste. Since a good chain is fairly cheap compared to a cassette you don't want to start off on the wrong foot.
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Unless you're going to be climbing hills while riding your trainer you'll be better off with a narrow range cassette (like 12-25).
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He's going to be running both the old and the new cassette. One on the Tacx, one on the rear wheel.
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Well, more specifically, torque on the crank arms.
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Use a $1 12" ruler. Replace when the same point on pins which should be 11" apart reaches 11 1/16" or front shifts get sluggish from side plate clearance.
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Don't because that doesn't account for initial roller clearance and wear which doesn't effect pitch and therefore cog wear.
Use a $1 12" ruler. Replace when the same point on pins which should be 11" apart reaches 11 1/16" or front shifts get sluggish from side plate clearance.
Use a $1 12" ruler. Replace when the same point on pins which should be 11" apart reaches 11 1/16" or front shifts get sluggish from side plate clearance.
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Also, it's funny that in Pnoenix apparently people have to get their trainers set up for summer.
Summer is coming.
Summer is coming.
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Personally, I would buy a new chain with the cassette, but not install it unless I experienced skipping when using the old chain on the new cassette.
When I get a new cassette, I usually buy 3 chains, and swap them out every 1,000 miles or so in order to maximize cassette life. I get at least 2 uses, usually 3, out of each chain, so a cassette lasts me 6k - 9k mi. The disadvantage, of course, is that this also wears out the chainrings, so I have to replace them too. Chainrings are cheaper than cassettes, though, so to me it is worth it to use the cassette longer and swap out the whole drivetrain at once - cassette, rings and chain(s).
Also, since the drivetrain is off the bike, I might as well clean it, look at the brake pads, cables/housing, bar tape, wheel bearings ....
When I get a new cassette, I usually buy 3 chains, and swap them out every 1,000 miles or so in order to maximize cassette life. I get at least 2 uses, usually 3, out of each chain, so a cassette lasts me 6k - 9k mi. The disadvantage, of course, is that this also wears out the chainrings, so I have to replace them too. Chainrings are cheaper than cassettes, though, so to me it is worth it to use the cassette longer and swap out the whole drivetrain at once - cassette, rings and chain(s).
Also, since the drivetrain is off the bike, I might as well clean it, look at the brake pads, cables/housing, bar tape, wheel bearings ....
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Cassette - Shimano 105 HG700-11, 11-34
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
Chain - Shimano 105 HG601, 11 speed
So I'm taking my bike in for it's first service. It has approx 1,000 miles on it and hasn't been cleaned (besides me wiping down the frame from time to time).
I have a used Tacx Neo trainer that I'm setting up (in preparation for summer), and need a cassette for it. I figure I'll just put the new cassette on the bike and the old one on the trainer.
Should I go ahead and pick up a new chain too?
I heard that heavier people strain their chain more (I was 190ish lbs when I started riding in January and am 175 now)... I figure I strain the chain more than the average person due to my weight.
A heavier rider will stretch its chain more rapidly for sure as more effort (wattage) is required to move forward than a lighter rider, but to what extent? I'm not sure.
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1000 miles? I don't believe it's enough to warrant swapping chain. I'd measure the chain stretch first but it should pretty close to new unless you managed to produce enough watts in your last 1000miles to stretch it, which would be insane (and very cool!).
A heavier rider will stretch its chain more rapidly for sure as more effort (wattage) is required to move forward than a lighter rider, but to what extent? I'm not sure.
A heavier rider will stretch its chain more rapidly for sure as more effort (wattage) is required to move forward than a lighter rider, but to what extent? I'm not sure.
A fresh chain is always a good idea with a new cassette.