Proper photoshoot of the Pacenti - Classic in my eyes.
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Proper photoshoot of the Pacenti - Classic in my eyes.
Thought I'd share this here fully since I finally took the time this morning to finally shot a full series of it. Yeah, it's not old but it's pure steel classic in my book with light tubing, pump peg, chain hanger, etc. Geometry is certainly more cruiser style than racer yet it's proven very fast and comfortable so far. I actually picked this one up from Kirk himself after it languished for awhile on another forum. I think the short top tube and tall head tube put most off. I'm curious to see if it works well as a long distance rider/rest day rider. Although, the first couple of rides make it feel plenty racy so who knows. Maybe it'll just be a bike I prefer more and more as I age and maybe get less flexible.
Hopefully I'll have the completed Sancineto ready to share soon too.
18 lbs,4 ozs
Alloy wheels on this too.
Ultegra 11 speed build
Ultegra 11 speed build
Pretty sweet color and nice paint job on this one. Tape to protect it when the pump is one
Pump peg, as there should be!
I like the contrast of the orange with the blue
I pretty much still to basic alloy cages on all my rides.
Hopefully I'll have the completed Sancineto ready to share soon too.
18 lbs,4 ozs
Alloy wheels on this too.
Ultegra 11 speed build
Ultegra 11 speed build
Pretty sweet color and nice paint job on this one. Tape to protect it when the pump is one
Pump peg, as there should be!
I like the contrast of the orange with the blue
I pretty much still to basic alloy cages on all my rides.
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More pics:
Not a classic fork but not really any different from my old Lemonds and others with C.F. forks
Good enough tire clearance for me
The blue hubs are a nice touch
My usual dress up for the bottle cage
Nice housing stop/adjuster protects paint on the head tube
Yeah, it's tall
Ritchey Cockpit
Ultegra shifter, came to me with the usual sticking shifting all too common with Shimano. He said the bike wasn't used much and this helped confirm that.
Blue hub
The man's signature
Not a classic fork but not really any different from my old Lemonds and others with C.F. forks
Good enough tire clearance for me
The blue hubs are a nice touch
My usual dress up for the bottle cage
Nice housing stop/adjuster protects paint on the head tube
Yeah, it's tall
Ritchey Cockpit
Ultegra shifter, came to me with the usual sticking shifting all too common with Shimano. He said the bike wasn't used much and this helped confirm that.
Blue hub
The man's signature
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And a few more:
Ritchey Cockpit
Ritchey Cockpit
Ritchey Cockpit
Tucked in seat stays
Seems stiff enough under me
Blue nipples are cool too!
Ritchey Cockpit
Ritchey Cockpit
Ritchey Cockpit
Tucked in seat stays
Seems stiff enough under me
Blue nipples are cool too!
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Super crisp clean workmanship on the frame. Classically beautiful.
So, is he building frames now (again)? As in taking orders? Great news if so.
I got to know Kirk a little when we both worked at Match (late '90s), where we made mostly Schwinn Paramounts and a few Rivendells and some other stuff. I gather it was there at Match that Kirk developed an appreciation for classic road bikes, tho I don't want to put words in his mouth. He'd previously been a welder at Bontrager, pre-Trek buyout.
After Match went out of business, I think Kirk's first project was the Artisan lugs he designed and had cast in Taiwan, prized by many of the best FBs in the world, Peter Weigle for example. Tho he's probably better known for giving the world the 27.5" tire/rim size (yes I know it's just 650b, but nobody had made knobby 650b MTB tires before Kirk, that I know of). I'm pretty sure his Pari-Moto road tire was also the first super-supple road-racing type tire in 650b, predating Compass by a few years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The original Pari-Moto was substantially lighter than the ones Panaracer still sells, really fast tires but no flat-proofing strip and very thin tread, so they got a reputation as "race day" tires — put a brand-new pair on for your big event (P-B-P for example) and then "retire" them before the tread wears out, not too much later. Panaracer chose to make them a bit more robust, so they aren't quite as fast, but more practical for most people.
I heard a bit about the buy-out, when his partners excercised their option to buy him out, I don't think it was completely consensual. I don't think Kirk would put it that way in public, but I think he got shafted. Like they had better lawyers than he did. But I know whatever he does (has done, will do) after the buyout will be high-integrity, like everything else he's done.
This frame is exhibit A for that.
Oh yeah nice work building it up, and great photos, thanks for sharing.
So, is he building frames now (again)? As in taking orders? Great news if so.
I got to know Kirk a little when we both worked at Match (late '90s), where we made mostly Schwinn Paramounts and a few Rivendells and some other stuff. I gather it was there at Match that Kirk developed an appreciation for classic road bikes, tho I don't want to put words in his mouth. He'd previously been a welder at Bontrager, pre-Trek buyout.
After Match went out of business, I think Kirk's first project was the Artisan lugs he designed and had cast in Taiwan, prized by many of the best FBs in the world, Peter Weigle for example. Tho he's probably better known for giving the world the 27.5" tire/rim size (yes I know it's just 650b, but nobody had made knobby 650b MTB tires before Kirk, that I know of). I'm pretty sure his Pari-Moto road tire was also the first super-supple road-racing type tire in 650b, predating Compass by a few years. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The original Pari-Moto was substantially lighter than the ones Panaracer still sells, really fast tires but no flat-proofing strip and very thin tread, so they got a reputation as "race day" tires — put a brand-new pair on for your big event (P-B-P for example) and then "retire" them before the tread wears out, not too much later. Panaracer chose to make them a bit more robust, so they aren't quite as fast, but more practical for most people.
I heard a bit about the buy-out, when his partners excercised their option to buy him out, I don't think it was completely consensual. I don't think Kirk would put it that way in public, but I think he got shafted. Like they had better lawyers than he did. But I know whatever he does (has done, will do) after the buyout will be high-integrity, like everything else he's done.
This frame is exhibit A for that.
Oh yeah nice work building it up, and great photos, thanks for sharing.
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So, to explain better. This was bought used from Kirk. Here's his comments from the ad.
"This is a custom Pacenti frame, made from a mix of Columbus Life and True Temper OX Platinum tubing and an Enve fork. Built in 2015 by Kelly Bedford. The bike has seen very little use and has *about* 300 bike-path miles on it. The bike is in very good-to- excellent condition. Professionally maintained, fresh tune, new bar tape. Full Ultegra 6800 kit, with Pacenti wheels and Ritchey bar, stem, seatpost and Cane Creek 110 headset."
I changed the stem, pedals, and saddle and added the bottle cages and that's pretty much it. Oh and put on the Conti tires even thought there was nothing wrong with the tires it came with. I believe the low miles statement and suspect it sat for awhile not used. I say this as the rear STI shifter was not downshifting well due to the usual Shimano dry grease issue I'm so used to with older bikes. I mean the shifter seemed to work right out of the box but then the bike sat at my house for a month or two as I healed from the knee replacement. First test ride it was sticking. Sorted that right out so no real issue at all really with the usual PB Blaster flush followed up by a relube with Triflow.
Took it out today for a 29 mile ride. It was real windy for the first 15 miles or so and at times I was only doing 9 mph into the strong wind. Yet, I still felt like I was taking it easy if that makes sense. With the wind at my back this baby cruised at up to 29 mph. Took the sharpest 90 degree turn on this route at 23 mph and it was absolutely no issue. Leaned in, tires gripped, frames stayed settled and then blasted out of the turn drama free.
I don't think he is still building but he did mention having at least one more available for sale.
And since you brought up his lugs, he sent me one of his prints with the lugs, a total surprise to me. I still need to get it framed so I can hang it in the bike cave.
A couple of shots from out on the ride today.
"This is a custom Pacenti frame, made from a mix of Columbus Life and True Temper OX Platinum tubing and an Enve fork. Built in 2015 by Kelly Bedford. The bike has seen very little use and has *about* 300 bike-path miles on it. The bike is in very good-to- excellent condition. Professionally maintained, fresh tune, new bar tape. Full Ultegra 6800 kit, with Pacenti wheels and Ritchey bar, stem, seatpost and Cane Creek 110 headset."
I changed the stem, pedals, and saddle and added the bottle cages and that's pretty much it. Oh and put on the Conti tires even thought there was nothing wrong with the tires it came with. I believe the low miles statement and suspect it sat for awhile not used. I say this as the rear STI shifter was not downshifting well due to the usual Shimano dry grease issue I'm so used to with older bikes. I mean the shifter seemed to work right out of the box but then the bike sat at my house for a month or two as I healed from the knee replacement. First test ride it was sticking. Sorted that right out so no real issue at all really with the usual PB Blaster flush followed up by a relube with Triflow.
Took it out today for a 29 mile ride. It was real windy for the first 15 miles or so and at times I was only doing 9 mph into the strong wind. Yet, I still felt like I was taking it easy if that makes sense. With the wind at my back this baby cruised at up to 29 mph. Took the sharpest 90 degree turn on this route at 23 mph and it was absolutely no issue. Leaned in, tires gripped, frames stayed settled and then blasted out of the turn drama free.
I don't think he is still building but he did mention having at least one more available for sale.
And since you brought up his lugs, he sent me one of his prints with the lugs, a total surprise to me. I still need to get it framed so I can hang it in the bike cave.
A couple of shots from out on the ride today.
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I stand by my statement "Super crisp clean workmanship" though. Ride with pride brother.
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^ Kelly is a well renowed frame builder. Among other things he was one of the premier builders at Serotta.
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
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great bike thanks for sharing with us
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^ Kelly is a well renowed frame builder. Among other things he was one of the premier builders at Serotta.
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
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Vintage? Perhaps not. Classic? Absolutely. It's nice enough that I can forgive the four-arm crank.
Thanks for sharing this one.
Thanks for sharing this one.
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^ Kelly is a well renowed frame builder. Among other things he was one of the premier builders at Serotta.
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
Here's a good article about him:
https://pezcyclingnews.com/technspec...ord-gets-pezd/
A nice variety of lugged, fillet brazed, and perhaps other methods of construction.
Some nice Joe Bell paint jobs too!
Steve in Peoria (definitely missing going to NAHBS)
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Great pics and it deserves a photoshoot.
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I was going to post Kelly Bedford's website - I had posted some pics from there before, great content, beautiful bikes. Unfortunately, the website is down & his Facebook has not been updated since 2022? Found a post on The Paceline, from Dave Kirk a month ago, that says he is still building. https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=306219