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The top tube looks very close to being level on that bike, I just wonder why they even bothered putting in that little bit of backslope to it.
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Well, I'm not sure that's a fair statement. If you do the "build a bike" on their webpage and make the same selections you get $610 or more depending on the pedals or other options. That's juts $40 for the paint.
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As a collector of stuff for almost my whole life, early on the original stuff was an incredible bargain, where utility far exceeded cost. So buying the old vintage stuff was cost effective. In the early days, I could buy a solid wood, antique table, for about 25% of what a new crappy particle board table cost. And 40 years later, that antique table is still going strong, while the particle board product probably ended up in a landfill 30 years ago. It was a no brainer. Eventually, some of the nicer old stuff went up in price, enjoying a collectible premium, and got to the point that the price exceeded the utility value (depending on the brand, type of item, etc).
In the case of bicycles, we have not crossed that point. Many of us given a $650 budget could acquire a top of the line vintage bike, that is easier to work on than a lot of the new stuff, is more durable, and visually appealing. Heck, at half that price you can find really nice stuff in my area. It depends of course what you are using the bike for. If it is a recreational ride, for pure exercise, then the old stuff is damn good.
I have always limited my bike purchases price wise to no more than a brand new entry level bike. I only violated that rule once, with my 1973 Paramount.
My latest addition, a mid 1980s Stout. Sure, it has an eclectic build for sure, and needs some TLC, but it is a fine bike.
In the case of bicycles, we have not crossed that point. Many of us given a $650 budget could acquire a top of the line vintage bike, that is easier to work on than a lot of the new stuff, is more durable, and visually appealing. Heck, at half that price you can find really nice stuff in my area. It depends of course what you are using the bike for. If it is a recreational ride, for pure exercise, then the old stuff is damn good.
I have always limited my bike purchases price wise to no more than a brand new entry level bike. I only violated that rule once, with my 1973 Paramount.
My latest addition, a mid 1980s Stout. Sure, it has an eclectic build for sure, and needs some TLC, but it is a fine bike.
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In case anyone was genuinely tempted by the $650 price tag, this model is currently listed at $600 on the State web stie. Probably Black Friday pricing.
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I often get messages from members here and on other sites about my old Telekom Merckx, asking me if id sell it.
Now I can just point them to this site and they can have a reasonable facsimile for a reasonable price
Telekom only used these team colours for the 1995 season so they can be hard to come by
Now I can just point them to this site and they can have a reasonable facsimile for a reasonable price
Telekom only used these team colours for the 1995 season so they can be hard to come by
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I think it is a very handsome bicycle. That being said, I think it should be kept in it's stock state. As soon as you start "upgrading" etc. you will have exceeded the frame's worth (not monetarily, but quality).
Great commuter bike if your lockup point is relatively secure. If you see the video adds, they (State) sure make the bike seem fun. They are moving one step past the fixed gear craze, and trying to maintain the aesthetic, but with a lot more practicality/safety.
Looks really fun. C+V is the biggest pack of complainers that will never buy this bike anyways. Go back to your 20 something self. A brand new bike!
Great commuter bike if your lockup point is relatively secure. If you see the video adds, they (State) sure make the bike seem fun. They are moving one step past the fixed gear craze, and trying to maintain the aesthetic, but with a lot more practicality/safety.
Looks really fun. C+V is the biggest pack of complainers that will never buy this bike anyways. Go back to your 20 something self. A brand new bike!
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This is a very interesting bike. Along with Retrospec, Handsome, and Linus, State’s offering what appeals to me about classic bikes: Fun simplicity. Sure, they lack appeal for those who prefer to build up a vintage lugged frame with NOS or refurbished parts; and they aren’t high going to be cross shopped by anyone out to emulate the pro peloton.
But, for those of us who like the simple, classic look without having the space or inclination to setup a workshop and start building up an eBay find; or who don’t want the latest disc brake carbon fiber wonder bike, this State is wonderful. It looks good at a reasonable price and will give the joy of simple riding. These these bikes are an excellent proposition. I hope they sell well.
But, for those of us who like the simple, classic look without having the space or inclination to setup a workshop and start building up an eBay find; or who don’t want the latest disc brake carbon fiber wonder bike, this State is wonderful. It looks good at a reasonable price and will give the joy of simple riding. These these bikes are an excellent proposition. I hope they sell well.
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The Handsome Devil and Fredward are similar, and they are available with IGH. No lug work, but definitely old school vibes:
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
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The Handsome Devil and Fredward are similar, and they are available with IGH. No lug work, but definitely old school vibes:
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
https://handsomecycles.com/products/devil-road
https://handsomecycles.com/products/...-speed-bicycle
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I enjoy finding an old frame somewhere and building it up. But, if I was looking for a new bike, this would be a likely suspect. I honestly have no idea how a straight blade fork rides but I have always liked them because the switchblade mountain bike fork was popular when I first started riding. I think it is a great looking bike.
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