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Ok. Your talking about me, 6' and now 194 pounds, did a solo ride this morning, 28 miles, average speed(everything I could muster) 21.24 average, but my counterpoint is, on a 20 pound bike, no way. A light bike makes you go faster . Pedaling a heavy bike is like riding in sand....
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The next thread should be When do you need $2,000+ road bike. I have a feeling that people around this forum don't buy bike to improve their riding results. They do not compete in races to really know their best results. I have this feeling that all expensive bikes are bought to satisfy internal need of some sort. There is no way that need will go away after two weeks of a low carb diet. So, OP, nice try but it just may be that not everyone around here comes from the same starting point as you, thus making your solution not suitable for everyone. It still will help a lot of people, but they will probably realise much smaller savings from your advice.
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oh god i was going to say that but i thought i shouldn't go there
the OP's tone - just like all people who post this crap - is so full of judgment. like they see people riding around on light bikes and they think they're all stupid. so, whatever bike the OP bought is the "right" bike, but anyone else who spent more is just an idiot. lol.
the OP's tone - just like all people who post this crap - is so full of judgment. like they see people riding around on light bikes and they think they're all stupid. so, whatever bike the OP bought is the "right" bike, but anyone else who spent more is just an idiot. lol.
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The next thread should be When do you need $2,000+ road bike. I have a feeling that people around this forum don't buy bike to improve their riding results. They do not compete in races to really know their best results. I have this feeling that all expensive bikes are bought to satisfy internal need of some sort. There is no way that need will go away after two weeks of a low carb diet.
So, OP, nice try but it just may be that not everyone around here comes from the same starting point as you, thus making your solution not suitable for everyone. It still will help a lot of people, but they will probably realise much smaller savings from your advice.
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That subject deserves a whole separate discussion. To put it in a nut shell: It was his discipline and determination that made Lance the great rider he was, and not the "white lunch bags" (IF they really were what the French so desperately tried to prove for years!). Many riders had those white lunches, and never were heard of.
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What kind of a huffy little princess says this and then continues via PM? You're right, saying something often enough doesn't mean it's true, as you've demonstrated with repeated explanation of your "insight," yet you offer me absolutely no reasons as to why you feel I'm wrong. Put up or shut up, oldie.
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What kind of a huffy little princess says this and then continues via PM? You're right, saying something often enough doesn't mean it's true, as you've demonstrated with repeated explanation of your "insight," yet you offer me absolutely no reasons as to why you feel I'm wrong. Put up or shut up, oldie.
The PM serves the purpose of defusing a thread that threatens to get out of control, and gives members a chance to turn civil. Apparently that doesn't work with you, since you are turning to name calling instead. This huffy little princess will not lower herself to your level, but leave the forum to you.
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If you expected to find a marketing ploy in this thread I have to disappoint you, or maybe relieve you.
I am not trying to sell you or point out a special sale.
What I am trying to get across is that it is quite simple to save that much money on the purchase of a top level bike. Independent of sale specials!
For argument's sake lets say that a quality road bike that weighs 2lbs less than the next model may cost you an extra $800 to $1000.
If one 180lb rider bought a 24lb bike for $3000 the total weight of bike and rider is 204lbs.
If the same rider went on a low-carb diet for a month and dropped 2lbs in weight (which is real easy to do over 4 weeks, and will stay off!) he could buy a 26lb bike for $2000, at a $1000 saving.
These numbers may be arbitrary, but that is not the issue, and hopefully, you still get the point.
I am not trying to sell you or point out a special sale.
What I am trying to get across is that it is quite simple to save that much money on the purchase of a top level bike. Independent of sale specials!
For argument's sake lets say that a quality road bike that weighs 2lbs less than the next model may cost you an extra $800 to $1000.
If one 180lb rider bought a 24lb bike for $3000 the total weight of bike and rider is 204lbs.
If the same rider went on a low-carb diet for a month and dropped 2lbs in weight (which is real easy to do over 4 weeks, and will stay off!) he could buy a 26lb bike for $2000, at a $1000 saving.
These numbers may be arbitrary, but that is not the issue, and hopefully, you still get the point.
There are plenty of reasons to buy a nicer bike other than weight.
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Ok, so I'll make an exception to my principles, and reply in here one more time.
The PM serves the purpose of defusing a thread that threatens to get out of control, and gives members a chance to turn civil. Apparently that doesn't work with you, since you are turning to name calling instead. This huffy little princess will not lower herself to your level, but leave the forum to you.
The PM serves the purpose of defusing a thread that threatens to get out of control, and gives members a chance to turn civil. Apparently that doesn't work with you, since you are turning to name calling instead. This huffy little princess will not lower herself to your level, but leave the forum to you.
I guess that I'll have to take your non-answer as confirmation that you know that you're full of it.
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Seems like most of the people that promote this line of thinking are simply trying to make themselves feel better about their heavy bike since they can't afford to buy something light / high end.