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Here's the corner. You can't see it till you come around a righthand bend, and it doesn't LOOK that bad, but you can see it's off-camber.
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On another of those rides, we were going down 84 from Skyline, and one rider just went right over the guardrail. Luckily he wasn't hurt, but his bike was. A guy in a minivan on the other side of the road stopped when he saw the crash and gave him ride home.
I stopped going on those rides after that....
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There's one corner on Altamont Rd in Los Altos Hills, which is really deceptive. It's after a sharp drop-off, and it's both decreasing radius AND off camber. On a BF NorCal forum group ride, one guy lost it going around there. The group was strung out from the climb just before that, so we were all solo by that point. Another rider came around the corner and found him and his Litespeed lying on the edge of the road. He was unconscious, and of course didn't remember the accident.
Here's the corner. You can't see it till you come around a righthand bend, and it doesn't LOOK that bad, but you can see it's off-camber.
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On another of those rides, we were going down 84 from Skyline, and one rider just went right over the guardrail. Luckily he wasn't hurt, but his bike was. A guy in a minivan on the other side of the road stopped when he saw the crash and gave him ride home.
I stopped going on those rides after that....
Here's the corner. You can't see it till you come around a righthand bend, and it doesn't LOOK that bad, but you can see it's off-camber.
![](https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikeforums.net-vbulletin/1000x480/altamont_981c11dd23c0a045ab823f0e18a3f4e17463937a.png)
On another of those rides, we were going down 84 from Skyline, and one rider just went right over the guardrail. Luckily he wasn't hurt, but his bike was. A guy in a minivan on the other side of the road stopped when he saw the crash and gave him ride home.
I stopped going on those rides after that....
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It's possible that the picture exaggerates how off camber the turn is, but it's bad. Whenever I descend Altamont, I keep my eyes peeled for the warning sign for bicyclists. The first time I did that descent was a Century ride, and they'd put up signs to warn riders, and it was still a "Holy ****!" moment.
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I’m happy if I know the road and the auto traffic isn’t too threatening. I’m actually happier on curves because my motor system is actively engaged. I get shaky on long fast straights. If I’m cold and shivering I sometimes have to slow to a walk.
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#9583
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The upside of having no memory my 44 mph swerve is: I have no issue doing 44 mph.
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It's possible that the picture exaggerates how off camber the turn is, but it's bad. Whenever I descend Altamont, I keep my eyes peeled for the warning sign for bicyclists. The first time I did that descent was a Century ride, and they'd put up signs to warn riders, and it was still a "Holy ****!" moment.
Those little Los Altos Hills roads take some practice.
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How's Moody Rd. by comparison?
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I did a ride called the Mulholland Challenge a few times. The first time I rode it with a woman from the forum and her husband was faster so he went ahead. There is a long, steep, twisty descent called Deer Creek. When we went down it there were a bunch of riders in the bushes. Around one turn there were 2 guys sitting on the ground. Crazy. At the bottom there was a sag stop and they told my friend that her husband had crashed and broke his frame but had got a ride back to the start and he wanted her to complete the ride.
I think Terry was on that ride.
I think Terry was on that ride.
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#9589
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Beautiful sunset in Flagstaff. Damn, this town needs a nickname! Suppose I could call it by the Diné name but it's really a mouthful.
I was getting graupeled on when I took this pic #trooper
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I get kinda spooked going much over 30 - 35 MPH, especially if I'm not pedaling. Pedaling I can feel safer at slightly higher speeds, since I'm creating some stabilization with the wattage. I don't enjoy just sitting on the bike and flying down descents at 40 MPH or more, especially as a smaller rider. I've had some bad downhill accidents too (concussions etc) so I'm a little scarred from that.
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Yeah, it’s sobering.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
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Yeah, it’s sobering.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
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Yeah, it’s sobering.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
My friend is supposed to have surgery for his wrist today and, fingers crossed, going home if all ok.
I have his bike at my place, other than one shattered pedal, it seems to be ok. It’s a beautiful bike, S Works with full Dura Ace.
I am thinking he won’t be riding for 6-8 weeks.
#SteelThenAluminumNeverCrabon
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