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The manipulation and game playing in the workplace and in society in general, is completely foreign to me, and I find it quite disgusting. No offense intended.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
02-29-24, 01:31 PM
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02-29-24, 01:33 PM
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02-29-24, 01:34 PM
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Thanking peers is where things get weird (is what I was trying to say). I try not to do it. I will express satisfaction or happiness with someones results, just not thank them directly (which implies hierarchy). If someone does a kick ass job I have at times emailed their managers to let them know - good suggestion.
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
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02-29-24, 01:36 PM
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Did 3 sets of 8
40/20s
Was able to maintain 350 throughout all the sets. Felt fine during the workout, now I feel completely zonked.
worth it.
40/20s
Was able to maintain 350 throughout all the sets. Felt fine during the workout, now I feel completely zonked.
worth it.
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The manipulation and game playing in the workplace and in society in general, is completely foreign to me, and I find it quite disgusting. No offense intended.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
02-29-24, 01:38 PM
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Arrive an hour early. Receive no “Thank You”.
Arrive 5 mins late, hear all about it.
Butter landing, Nothing
Hard landing: Suddenly every passenger has a pilots liscense and wants to tell you what you did wrong.
Arrive 5 mins late, hear all about it.
Butter landing, Nothing
Hard landing: Suddenly every passenger has a pilots liscense and wants to tell you what you did wrong.
02-29-24, 01:39 PM
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The manipulation and game playing in the workplace and in society in general, is completely foreign to me, and I find it quite disgusting. No offense intended.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
In Belize, instead of ‘you’re welcome, we say ‘thank you too. Here, in an extremely polite culture, thank you is used in almost every transaction of any stripe. It’s nothing, or with pleasure are the usual replies. I have not once sensed any manipulation taking place. That’s not to say there is none. I might just be blind to it.
We also greet practically everyone we pass in the street (in a small town), and at every counter, or window providing service. It is a nice way to pass through life.
Everyone is a "peer" in this context in general society and we all are (in principle) on the same footing. So its not an apples to apples comparison. Being polite in general public can only be a good thing IMO - the way things aught to be. That's my take at least. I thank people in public regularly and mean it when I say it.
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02-29-24, 01:41 PM
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Thanking peers is where things get weird (is what I was trying to say). I try not to do it. I will express satisfaction or happiness with someones results, just not thank them directly (which implies hierarchy). If someone does a kick ass job I have at times emailed their managers to let them know - good suggestion.
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
02-29-24, 01:41 PM
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Hot Take - Saying "thank you" for doing x, y, or z at work can be manipulative and/or a "power play" if you will. It implies some hierarchy. For example I'm not going to my boss or to the site GM to say "thank you for doing a good job" on something.
Like it's so weird when people in different departments that don't have clear org. chart separation have thank-you wars. Example, someone at mid-level in commercial says "thank you for pushing in the lab to get this done." And someone on a similar org. chart level in technical says "thank YOU for bringing us the business!".
It's just weird. Especially when its in meetings. It feels like a battle for who gets the last "thank you". This is why I try to thank people as little as possible if they are not my direct reports
Like it's so weird when people in different departments that don't have clear org. chart separation have thank-you wars. Example, someone at mid-level in commercial says "thank you for pushing in the lab to get this done." And someone on a similar org. chart level in technical says "thank YOU for bringing us the business!".
It's just weird. Especially when its in meetings. It feels like a battle for who gets the last "thank you". This is why I try to thank people as little as possible if they are not my direct reports
02-29-24, 01:42 PM
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I thank the pilots and attendants every flight. You got me where I was going alive and it’s a stressful job. I also say hello and have a nice flight every time I board.
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02-29-24, 01:43 PM
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The alternative perspectives are insightful. I think I have a bit of a complex about it haha.
and you're welcome Mojo31
and you're welcome Mojo31
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02-29-24, 01:44 PM
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But it is a game. It’s all fake politeness to make the person doing the thanking, greeting or asking how someone is feel good and appear polite. Do they actually care how the person they greet is doing? Are they actually grateful that the grocery clerk rang up their order or are they saying thanks because it’s expected?
02-29-24, 01:45 PM
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The alternative perspectives are insightful. I think I have a bit of a complex about it haha.
and you're welcome Mojo31
and you're welcome Mojo31
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I have been known to compliment the pilots on a smooth landing when they are standing by the cockpit as we deplane. I also thank the stews and wish them safe travels.
02-29-24, 01:49 PM
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Hot Take - Saying "thank you" for doing x, y, or z at work can be manipulative and/or a "power play" if you will. It implies some hierarchy. For example I'm not going to my boss or to the site GM to say "thank you for doing a good job" on something.
Like it's so weird when people in different departments that don't have clear org. chart separation have thank-you wars. Example, someone at mid-level in commercial says "thank you for pushing in the lab to get this done." And someone on a similar org. chart level in technical says "thank YOU for bringing us the business!".
It's just weird. Especially when its in meetings. It feels like a battle for who gets the last "thank you". This is why I try to thank people as little as possible if they are not my direct reports
Like it's so weird when people in different departments that don't have clear org. chart separation have thank-you wars. Example, someone at mid-level in commercial says "thank you for pushing in the lab to get this done." And someone on a similar org. chart level in technical says "thank YOU for bringing us the business!".
It's just weird. Especially when its in meetings. It feels like a battle for who gets the last "thank you". This is why I try to thank people as little as possible if they are not my direct reports
02-29-24, 01:52 PM
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I'll take what may be a counter stance, and suggest that hierarchies are necessary in the workplace. Those that are higher need to be kind and show appreciation as a part of motivating those below, and those below need to show respect to those above.
TMonk may be talking in the context of the corporate ladder, but otherwise some of what was said does not make sense in other situations. For example, my clients/customers are considered by me to be peers. They invite me to various outings, and I invite them to outings as well (golf, clay shoots, dinners, sporting events, etc.). Generally, there is an expressed thanks by the invitee, and I've never felt it was not genuine. I thank them for sending me business, and they will often thank me for quick turnaround, good results, and the like. I've never felt it was manipulative in any manner.
Other than larger law firms, I do not have any experience in corporate Merica, though.
TMonk may be talking in the context of the corporate ladder, but otherwise some of what was said does not make sense in other situations. For example, my clients/customers are considered by me to be peers. They invite me to various outings, and I invite them to outings as well (golf, clay shoots, dinners, sporting events, etc.). Generally, there is an expressed thanks by the invitee, and I've never felt it was not genuine. I thank them for sending me business, and they will often thank me for quick turnaround, good results, and the like. I've never felt it was manipulative in any manner.
Other than larger law firms, I do not have any experience in corporate Merica, though.
02-29-24, 02:04 PM
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02-29-24, 02:07 PM
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Thanking peers is where things get weird (is what I was trying to say). I try not to do it. I will express satisfaction or happiness with someones results, just not thank them directly (which implies hierarchy). If someone does a kick ass job I have at times emailed their managers to let them know - good suggestion.
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
My interpretation of genejockey's post is that the people aren't exactly peers, and/or that Genejockey is a super senior technical expert so its not weird
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always gotta thank the pilot bampilot06! Yours is an indisputably honorable job.
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02-29-24, 02:17 PM
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On my Sunday ride, there's an stop light at the end of Canada where it T's into CA-92. 92 at that point is turning from a 2-lane road into a 4-lane freeway, so traffic is going 45-60, but as I say, there's a light with a button for cyclists to trigger.
So, one Sunday I got there, pushed the button, waited the usual long, long time to get the green. When I got it, I made sure the cars were going to stop. As I rolled out, I had trouble clipping in so I was rolling really slowly and looking down. I was just about to the middle of the righthand lane when a red Camaro blows through in the left lane without even slowing.
If I had clipped in quickly and gotten fully into the intersection, he'd probably have killed me.
So, one Sunday I got there, pushed the button, waited the usual long, long time to get the green. When I got it, I made sure the cars were going to stop. As I rolled out, I had trouble clipping in so I was rolling really slowly and looking down. I was just about to the middle of the righthand lane when a red Camaro blows through in the left lane without even slowing.
If I had clipped in quickly and gotten fully into the intersection, he'd probably have killed me.
Head on a swivel.
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