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Old 04-30-23, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
My UK friend is the opposite. He clearly bristled at the mere suggestion as if was like me asking to borrow his toothbrush or something else very personal.

My Swedish friend seems comfortable sharing some food items but NOT comfortable sharing something like a stew or soup. But he is ok with something that can be cut off.
Maybe they suspect you have a contagion?
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I like sauerkraut.
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Originally Posted by datlas
The group I am with includes one Swede, one Brit, and 3 ‘mericans. We have eaten several meals together.

From interactions and body language I have learned everyone has different comfort levels with sharing food. In both mrs datlas’ and my family, we are very comfortable sharing small portions/tastes of what we have ordered, we almost consider it rude to NOT offer others a taste.

My UK friend is the opposite. He clearly bristled at the mere suggestion as if was like me asking to borrow his toothbrush or something else very personal.

My Swedish friend seems comfortable sharing some food items but NOT comfortable sharing something like a stew or soup. But he is ok with something that can be cut off.

The other Americans seem to be only comfortable sharing separate items that are already in pieces, like French fries.

Fascinating.

#respectinglimits

Edit: Google says less than 1 in 10 Brits like to share food. https://londonlovesbusiness.com/less...-sharing-food/
Mrs. GeneJockey has always been more willing to share food than I am, specifically to share MY food, as in eating off my plate. I've tried to explain to her the concept of things like "This is the exact number of fries I want", but she steadfastly refuses to understand.
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Stuttgart, AR. Quite a claim to fame.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
Stuttgart, AR. Quite a claim to fame.
Seems ambiguous. Is the claim that it is the

Rice Capital of the World +
Duck Capital of the World?

Or Rice/Duck Capital of the World?
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Maybe they suspect you have a contagion?
But that’s not how it works.
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Originally Posted by datlas
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My UK friend is the opposite. He clearly bristled at the mere suggestion as if was like me asking to borrow his toothbrush or something else very personal.
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The top five foods Brits say they’re eating again are chicken kiev (43 per cent), trifle (42 per cent), scotch eggs (40 per cent), rice pudding (39 per cent) and prawn cocktail (33 per cent).
that's just the kind and polite nature of the subjects of the crown, if your food was that depressing you'd keep it to yourself also.
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Not sure how I feel about Cleveland
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Originally Posted by datlas
The group I am with includes one Swede, one Brit, and 3 ‘mericans. We have eaten several meals together.

From interactions and body language I have learned everyone has different comfort levels with sharing food. In both mrs datlas’ and my family, we are very comfortable sharing small portions/tastes of what we have ordered, we almost consider it rude to NOT offer others a taste.

My UK friend is the opposite. He clearly bristled at the mere suggestion as if was like me asking to borrow his toothbrush or something else very personal.

My Swedish friend seems comfortable sharing some food items but NOT comfortable sharing something like a stew or soup. But he is ok with something that can be cut off.

The other Americans seem to be only comfortable sharing separate items that are already in pieces, like French fries.

Fascinating.

#respectinglimits

Edit: Google says less than 1 in 10 Brits like to share food. https://londonlovesbusiness.com/less...-sharing-food/
I am no ok sharing food if I'm not sleeping with that person. Drives me up the wall going out with the in-laws where everything is shared.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I am no ok sharing food if I'm not sleeping with that person. Drives me up the wall going out with the in-laws where everything is shared.
As above, I respect limits. But imagine the variety of foods you could sample if you were sharing. Of course I don’t necessarily suggest losing half of your meal to others, just a small sample.
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rjones28 are you going to provide an opera review?
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Originally Posted by datlas
As above, I respect limits. But imagine the variety of foods you could sample if you were sharing. Of course I don’t necessarily suggest losing half of your meal to others, just a small sample.
Years ago, before Mrs. GJ was even Mrs. GJ, we were eating at a nice restaurant in Healdsburg up in Sonoma. She ordered something safe and boring, and I was a bit more adventurous. She wanted to try mine, so I let her. She liked it so much she took another bite. When she went for the third, I attempted to parry her fork but she did a beat/lunge that knocked the fork out of my hand, and it clattered loudly to the tile floor. Embarrassing.
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I decided discretion is the better part of valor and rode ITG instead of IRL today. I figured if my chest started hurting again when I was on the trainer, I could just stop, whereas on the road I'd still have to get home somehow.

So, 24 virtual miles in the imaginary land of Watopia. Did a couple climbs, ran my HR up to 166 or so without any issues, no pain, etc. Nowhere near my fastest time for that loop, but still a reasonably good ride.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
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My mother made different types of kraut including a sweeter one she called dumph kraut. She also made awesome cole slaw
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I suspect I wouldn't have had much fun riding outside today....
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Originally Posted by datlas
As above, I respect limits. But imagine the variety of foods you could sample if you were sharing. Of course I don’t necessarily suggest losing half of your meal to others, just a small sample.
I am not wild about trying most food. On the other hand, I do look forward to the food I like, and people feeling free to poach is taking away from that. It likely also has to do with growing up poor, and on the rare occasions I got to eat at a restaurant, losing a portion of the meal I'd been looking forward to, with the exchange being unappealing, was a straight loss. The reason for different opinions is often a totally different background feeding into it.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I decided discretion is the better part of valor and rode ITG instead of IRL today. I figured if my chest started hurting again when I was on the trainer, I could just stop, whereas on the road I'd still have to get home somehow.

So, 24 virtual miles in the imaginary land of Watopia. Did a couple climbs, ran my HR up to 166 or so without any issues, no pain, etc. Nowhere near my fastest time for that loop, but still a reasonably good ride.
Are you going to be around for a while?
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Originally Posted by big john
Are you going to be around for a while?
Barring anything unforeseen. The pain apparently had nothing to do with my heart, and was probably just an inflammation of the cartilage that connects my lowest ribs to my sternum. NSAIDs made it go away. In fact I haven't had any since the Naproxen I took last night at 9 and I don't feel anything. Since the 'scrip says "take as needed for pain", I haven't taken any today.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
I am not wild about trying most food. On the other hand, I do look forward to the food I like, and people feeling free to poach is taking away from that. It likely also has to do with growing up poor, and on the rare occasions I got to eat at a restaurant, losing a portion of the meal I'd been looking forward to, with the exchange being unappealing, was a straight loss. The reason for different opinions is often a totally different background feeding into it.
A friend of mine got custody of his daughters after they had spent years with his ex. They were clearly affected by the lack of food from earlier and would get nervous when they felt food was getting low in the house. They were teens when I met them and it still bothered them.
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Originally Posted by Bah Humbug
It likely also has to do with growing up poor, and on the rare occasions I got to eat at a restaurant, losing a portion of the meal I'd been looking forward to, with the exchange being unappealing, was a straight loss.
I thought you grew up on some Connecticut country manor?
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A friend of mine got custody of his daughters after they had spent years with his ex. They were clearly affected by the lack of food from earlier and would get nervous when they felt food was getting low in the house. They were teens when I met them and it still bothered them.
Food issues never go away. One of my aunt's old dogs had come from her brother-in-law, who had some drug issues and had left it starving on the porch in a Connecticut winter. My then-uncle, in one of the decent things he did, took the dog away to the farm where it was spoiled. She still stashed food all over, to the point it was found for years after she was gone.
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[QUOTE=genejockey;22875840]I suspect I wouldn't have had much fun riding outside today..../QUOTE]

It wasn't so bad out there today. A few breezy sections, a few gusts here and there. Headwind coming back north on Foothill Expressway was significant, so I just got as low as I could, shifted down and rode it out. Not so bad.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I thought you grew up on some Connecticut country manor?
There is a very nice house there now, built by the former uncle. I grew up down the road, but also at a point when no one in the extended family was above the poverty line. The land is valuable, but the people were poor.

Most people on this thread would have refused to eat in the old farmhouse's dining room.
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