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That must have been a very long time ago. I've been cycling for 40 something years and it's always been Shimano vs Campag in that time (except for Suntour on cheaper setups). SRAM wasn't even on the scene in road bikes back then and only had their grip-shift. What others did I miss?
Dia-Compe, still operating today
Simplex, one the first derailleurs
Zeus, Campy-ish components
Huret, derailleurs
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All those names ring a bell, but I don't remember them being around much compared to Shimano, Campag and Suntour. I guess I'm not quite old enough! I started cycling in the 70s, but It would have been the mid-80s before I started taking notice of component brands. My first road bike had Suntour mechs and my first proper build had the very first Shimano 105 group. I’ve got a vague feeling that my first derailleur bike as a kid in the 70s had Huret gears.
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I thought I remember seeing that even the carbon layup was specific to each rider. Don't ask me to back that up but I thought that was the case. In any event I really don't think its even remotely a challenge for these bikes being used in The Tour to made with discs at the minimum weight limit, regardless of manufacturer.
Around here there are far more rim brake than disc still since most of the cyclists here don't upgrade bikes as frequently as some do on this forum.
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That must have been a very long time ago. I've been cycling for 40 something years and it's always been Shimano vs Campag in that time (except for Suntour on cheaper setups). SRAM wasn't even on the scene in road bikes back then and only had their grip-shift. What others did I miss?
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Most anything back in the day shifted better than Campy. Suntour was the best. Even their low end stuff shifted good. Then Shimano developed/patented the Celeron? pulley. Suntour couldn't copy it/make something similar and the rest became history. High end Simplex stuff was really good also. If they hadn't made the Delrin mistake, we might be talking about them instead of Campagnolo.
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Maybe, but they must have made cheap parts too because the bike I had Suntour on was pretty low end. This would have been early-mid 80s vintage. So then it was mainly Suntour, Shimano and Campag. Now Shimano, SRAM and Campag. Doesn't seem all that different to me in terms of overall competition. Maybe Shimano's dominance wasn't so obvious back then, but SRAM appear to have a pretty large market share these days. While Campag seem to remain the slightly more niche up-market alternative they always were.
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Huh, so weird, two years in a row, winning Tour de France on rim brakes. Weird, I thought disc brakes were so superior on the hills, but for some reason the best hill climber and descent twice in a row is riding on rim brake. How is he not dead? I mean rim brakes are so inferior, I'm amazed he's still alive never mind winning.
Also surprised Specialized and Trek haven't told Colnago how stupid they are for even offering a rim brake version. How dare they offer options to their customers, morons, so stupid.
Also surprised Specialized and Trek haven't told Colnago how stupid they are for even offering a rim brake version. How dare they offer options to their customers, morons, so stupid.
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Huh, so weird, two years in a row, winning Tour de France on rim brakes. Weird, I thought disc brakes were so superior on the hills, but for some reason the best hill climber and descent twice in a row is riding on rim brake. How is he not dead? I mean rim brakes are so inferior, I'm amazed he's still alive never mind winning.
Also surprised Specialized and Trek haven't told Colnago how stupid they are for even offering a rim brake version. How dare they offer options to their customers, morons, so stupid.
Also surprised Specialized and Trek haven't told Colnago how stupid they are for even offering a rim brake version. How dare they offer options to their customers, morons, so stupid.
He also used disc brakes for 17 of the 21 TDF stages and Campag admitted that rim brakes were only used for weight saving on the 2 mountain top finish stages.
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And then I read the following on German tour-magazin forums:
Pinarello Dogma F Whitepaper.
"There remains a signifigant number of Rim brake consumers and they continuely ask us to develop high end frames specific for these systems. The rim brake riding experience still offers the “Pinarello riding feeling” and both brake versions for our highest end model is a must."
Das Englisch ist Made in Italy.
https://pinarello.com/assets/documen...er_Dogma-F.pdf
I have both Disc and Rim brake bikes and I like both variants for the use-cases I bought them for. Also I am quite skinny...
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Olympics gold and bronze on rim brakes.
And then I read the following on German tour-magazin forums:
Pinarello Dogma F Whitepaper.
"There remains a signifigant number of Rim brake consumers and they continuely ask us to develop high end frames specific for these systems. The rim brake riding experience still offers the “Pinarello riding feeling” and both brake versions for our highest end model is a must."
Das Englisch ist Made in Italy.
https://pinarello.com/assets/documen...er_Dogma-F.pdf
I have both Disc and Rim brake bikes and I like both variants for the use-cases I bought them for. Also I am quite skinny...
And then I read the following on German tour-magazin forums:
Pinarello Dogma F Whitepaper.
"There remains a signifigant number of Rim brake consumers and they continuely ask us to develop high end frames specific for these systems. The rim brake riding experience still offers the “Pinarello riding feeling” and both brake versions for our highest end model is a must."
Das Englisch ist Made in Italy.
https://pinarello.com/assets/documen...er_Dogma-F.pdf
I have both Disc and Rim brake bikes and I like both variants for the use-cases I bought them for. Also I am quite skinny...