Dilberto

Wally-World 105 is entirely different than LBS 105...one is designed to BREAK - the other is nearly race-able.

Daytrip

But we're not talking about actually riding the Wally World bike--just poaching the components.

One more observation: Unlike parts/groups bought on CL or Ebay, these actually come with a receipt and a warranty likely to be honored.

SneakyKing

seems like a good enough deal. you may be able to sell the frame for a little something to make it an even better deal

RT

Please cite your source.

Yaniel

for 500 bucks, its seems like a better deal than any other of the ebay/bikesdirect/china specials. if you buy it and its not what you expected, or it just sucks walmart has a great return policy.

alxra

OP, this is a good find. Some people on this forum can't see the peloton for the cyclists. They'll cry about the cheap brake pads even though they're free.

Nikolai

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/news/newsDetail/268.html

also, https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ring-this-bike

RT

Thanks for the links. As I explained to others who have pointed out that, just because my search contains come common elements with other threads, does not mean it answers my question. As another poster nebulously pointed out, WM 105's are meant to break and LBS 105's are almost race-able. I pondered the same notion, but have found nothing to back it up. 105 is 105, no?

ahsposo 

+1 The evil Empire. Just look what they are making their customers wear! https://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

Nikolai

Todd - I think (ok hope) there was a hint of sattire in the comment/post you refer to. I'm very on the fence with your find for my g/f's birthday, but hoping the local WM will have one there for inspection so I can decide.

I can't swallow the extra cost, or else I'd agree with a poster on the thread I linked above, this BD bike is a helluva lot more bike for a bit more scratch: https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../falkirkIX.htm

zeo_max

105 is 105. And no they didn't pay a 10 year old to steal the parts, that's just retar***. I've discussed this before in previous Corsa threads. This bike hurts the ego of those so called "serious cyclists" that have paid much more for a bike like this. It's a good deal, consider buying it. But also consider the Ultegra/105 version.

And BTW I'm not ashamed to say that I would gladly ride this bike stock as it comes.

spry

I'm telling you guys'it looks just like a Cervelo.

grwoolf

+1. If I was on a very tight budget and the bike fits, I'd have no problem riding a bike like that.

When you pay over twice that at LBS for a similar 'brand name' bike, you are paying for brand name marketing, high overhead, an inefficient supply chain (low volume), warranty/service support, and (hopefully) experienced staff. None of that comes for free. I think it's great that there is a Walmart option for those that don't see enough value in that stuff to pay for it.

The typical local bike store is on the opposite end of the business spectrum from Walmart. Walmart is the model of efficiency and non-value add. Evil or not, that model is not going away. A LBS must deliver a lot of value beyond the actual goods they sell to be successful.

I don't buy a bike that often and I value the services that my LBS provides, so that is the route I choose. For parts and such, the internet works well. For laundry soap and motor oil, Walmart.

RT

Without a doubt. I am very aware of what my LBS does for me, and hope you would agree that not buying my bike from them does not mean I am not supporting them. After all, if I don't have the tool to reset my star nut, I'm not taking it back to the Wal-Mart, I'm taking it to the LBS, and I'm tipping. When I need warm weather gear, I'm going to the LBS. Tubes? LBS. But when it comes down to a bike with 105 components for $200 less than a bike anywhere else with 2200 or Sora, c'mon, man. That is a no-brainer.

Economies of scale work for the consumer as well as the seller. I guess it all boils down to how much of a bike shop's margin is related to actual bike sales, and how much is the rest. It also begs the question How do you define support of your LBS?

longbeachgary

I have to agree that for $500 it's not a bad bike whether you're going to strip it or ride it. I shows that the shifters are 105 ten speed - not a bad deal.

Velodad

That's how BF is and will always be. The sooner you get used to it, the happier you will be. Love it or leave it.

Velodad

NEWS FLASH!!!!
105 is fully race-able

skinnyguy

this would be a great bike for your spouse, suppose your significant other wants to try cycling but not sure if she would like it. This bike has a place in the world. Look at the full carbon model, better speced than my bike that I race. If you work on your own bikes than these are great deals. who cares about lbs thats what pro bike kit is for.

RacerOne

That looksl like older 105 to me but who cares, it's still 105. I'm not sure though if it would be worth the price to strip it since it isn't full 105.

|3iker

I'd no hesitation in buying it! Geez! <$500 for a 105 roadie. What's the catch? Oh wait.... no pedals! FAIL!
Seriously, I'd hit it especially if you can take it apart and set it up yourself. Heck bring it to an LBS and have them comb over it.

rumrunn6

WM clearly sees a market they can take advantage off and they know what people look for as a sign of a quality bike. if they are going to sell bikes they have to have the appearance of a competitive product. meaning the kids says; "look Dad, it's got the same stuff!" and Dad says; "OK, what the heck I can save $200!"

baj32161

While I am certainly not a "Road Nazi" or a racer, I would have no problem buying or even riding a bike like this....forget about cannibalizing it. A bike spec'd like that for less than $500 is a terrific deal. My bike spec'd like that which I bought new from the LBS in 2005 cost me over $800, and it was a leftover '04 model. Sure, there is plenty of crap at Wally World, but this, as the OP stated in one of his posts, seems to be a no-brainer, especially for a beginning cyclist. Also, given Walmart's liberal return policy, there is very little risk factor in buying this bike. I wish something like this was available when I picked up road cycling back in 2005.

The elitism and other boorish behaviour n this form is just something to which you must get accustomed. I have been here for awhile and, frankly, it has grown tiresome to me.

Cheers,

Brian J.

RT

While this is true to some extent, I think Wal-Mart stumbling blindly into the cycling arena is more likely. An oafish brute as big as The Mart doesn't have the foresight to plan something this intricate in a niche market. I think on some level, Wally World still thinks Breaking Away just came out in theaters and wants to sell more 'ten speeds.'

If you are right though, the guy/gal who brought this idea to market needs a promotion.

RT

^^^The danger to the LBS, however, is real, and it is ugly, however I think the LBS being squeezed out by Bentonville is highly unlikely due to the specialized nature of the rest of the LBS model.

Crash2Much

Why are you people so OBSESSED with upgrading a bike******************************???

Why not buy what you want to start with?

Another thing, WHY is everyone so OBSESSED with owning a high dollar Name Brand bike********************?

Buy a bike with the correct frame size, get the crankset you like, get the shifters you like, etc.

It is no different than going to the drug store and buying high dollar name brand drugs or cheap generic drugs. If they are both identical then why pay more. Only a jerk would by a high dollar name brand bike JUST for BRAGGING RIGHTS. Hay man...look what I have...wow man...thats cool dude.

My bike is cheap. It weight 2 lbs more than a high dollar bike. BIG #$%#@#$% DEAL. It has all the components I like and it is fast, just as fast as yours.

I don't understand biker mentality these days, I just don't get it.

Buy a Wal Mart bike if you want it. Buy a yard sale bike, strip it and put on good parts. There is nothing wrong with that. Don't be brain washed by biker mentality. Your not racing are you. So what if your bike is a lb heavy and 1/2 mph slower that a high dollar racing bike, BIG DEAL. Enjoy life and don' t get snooty.

I actually have a pretty nice bike. I bought several old yard sale bikes and stripped them all. The best frame that fits me is a 40 year old English Racer frame it weighs 4 lbs.. I put a 175mm 48/38/26 aluminum 105 crankset on it. I tried a 52T but the 48T is faster. I have a pretty nice deraullier I buy used parts on Ebay. Nothing special on the aluminum wheels just 25mm high pressure road tires. I have homemade wheel covers. Cheap handle bars. OK my bike is not a name brand, it is not beautiful and it is about 2 lbs heavy but I can ride with anyone. I do not support Nashbar, Shimano, and BikeDirect.com just for the sake of supporting them. I don't buy American either. I am sorry but the bottom line is $$$ I buy what I can afford and I don't care what people think. Make it simple and make it work.

THINK for yourself. Do let other people think for you.