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Old 02-08-10, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
Not to make this about me, but I burn 4,000+ on a 26 mile ride, albeit with many hills. Am I reading this right, that we are talking miles, not km?

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Originally Posted by Toddorado
...and 3,700 calories in 90 miles? That's an awful low number.
Actually it seems high to me.

500 calories * 5.666 hours = 2833 calories. If he was really exerting himself or is quite large he might have burned as much as 600 calories per hour which would be 3400 calories.


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Not to make this about me, but I burn 4,000+ on a 26 mile ride, albeit with many hills. Am I reading this right, that we are talking miles, not km?
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
It dissolves into nothingness as soon as you start sweating. I chucked the entire tube into the trash when I figured that out. What is the point of having an embrocation product completely dissolve when in contact with water? It's like the manufacturers think that we don't sweat down there.

I currently use Bag Balm because it doesn't dissolve, but it is messy and requires a good hot wash cycle to come clean. I am open to suggestions, but I do NOT want another water-soluable waste of time.
Try ... nothing at all. Nothing icky to block your pores and make a mess.

I went through a season back in 2003 trying all sorts of these products and came to the conclusion that they actually made matters worse. Now I just use a teensy dab of a lanolin or silicon based lotion on days when I know it is going to be really, really hot and I'm going to sweat a lot, or rainy days. Otherwise, I don't use anything at all.
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Maybe he weighs 800 pounds...
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Maybe he weighs 800 pounds...
That's a point.

If that's the case he's doing amazingly well to find a bicycle to support his weight ... and then to ride 26 miles with it.
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Originally Posted by Machka
Try ... nothing at all. Nothing icky to block your pores and make a mess.

I went through a season back in 2003 trying all sorts of these products and came to the conclusion that they actually made matters worse. Now I just use a teensy dab of a lanolin or silicon based lotion on days when I know it is going to be really, really hot and I'm going to sweat a lot, or rainy days. Otherwise, I don't use anything at all.
Oh, Lord, let me not suffer that kind of pain ever again.

Without anything, I get this split in my skin down there, and if I grimace and push through the pain, it starts bleeding. Several types of shorts and saddles have not helped it a bit. It's a point where the skin is very thin against nothing but bone, and unless its lubricated, it tears due to not moving easily enough. I think its just some sort of personal orthopedic anomaly that I have to deal with, but I hate hate hate this water-soluble crap that doesn't do anything except waste my money
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
Not to make this about me, but I burn 4,000+ on a 26 mile ride, albeit with many hills. Am I reading this right, that we are talking miles, not km?
You know better than that.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
Oh, Lord, let me not suffer that kind of pain ever again.

Without anything, I get this split in my skin down there, and if I grimace and push through the pain, it starts bleeding. Several types of shorts and saddles have not helped it a bit. It's a point where the skin is very thin against nothing but bone, and unless its lubricated, it tears due to not moving easily enough. I think its just some sort of personal orthopedic anomaly that I have to deal with, but I hate hate hate this water-soluble crap that doesn't do anything except waste my money
This sounds like a horror movie. Scary stuff, I'd guess I'd have to find some kind of cream too if this were the case.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
Oh, Lord, let me not suffer that kind of pain ever again.

Without anything, I get this split in my skin down there, and if I grimace and push through the pain, it starts bleeding. Several types of shorts and saddles have not helped it a bit. It's a point where the skin is very thin against nothing but bone, and unless its lubricated, it tears due to not moving easily enough. I think its just some sort of personal orthopedic anomaly that I have to deal with, but I hate hate hate this water-soluble crap that doesn't do anything except waste my money
Try something lanolin or silicon-based then ... take a wander through the baby department or hand cream department and see what you can find.
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
Oh, Lord, let me not suffer that kind of pain ever again.

Without anything, I get this split in my skin down there, and if I grimace and push through the pain, it starts bleeding. Several types of shorts and saddles have not helped it a bit. It's a point where the skin is very thin against nothing but bone, and unless its lubricated, it tears due to not moving easily enough. I think its just some sort of personal orthopedic anomaly that I have to deal with, but I hate hate hate this water-soluble crap that doesn't do anything except waste my money
Try Sudacrem
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Now with 99.9% less Fail.

104.48 miles 6hrs. 17.2avg
Ride was from downtown Harlingen to South padre island and back. Very well marked route with some nice scenery. Wind was non existent 2-4mph.
I also had my first very embarrassing moment on the bike. The starting point was in a field next to a warehouse and everyone was parking on side of the road on the grassy field. I see my buddys so make my way over there there's no parking so I try to move to other side and go through a puddle. Wet grass+mud and spinning tires=pissed off riders. I felt like a total moron. I go over to register and over to apologize apologize apologize.
Other than that, ride went well. Finished strong, legs shoulders hands really take a beating.
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Sounds great, congratulations!
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Originally Posted by deep_sky
It dissolves into nothingness as soon as you start sweating. I chucked the entire tube into the trash when I figured that out. What is the point of having an embrocation product completely dissolve when in contact with water? It's like the manufacturers think that we don't sweat down there.

I currently use Bag Balm because it doesn't dissolve,
but it is messy and requires a good hot wash cycle to come clean. I am open to suggestions, but I do NOT want another water-soluable waste of time.
I prefer to wash my balls on warm.
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
...and 3,700 calories in 90 miles? That's an awful low number.
Not really. I've done sub 5 hour centuries burning well below 3000 calories.

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Not to make this about me, but I burn 4,000+ on a 26 mile ride, albeit with many hills. Am I reading this right, that we are talking miles, not km?
How did you measure? Garmins, and HRM calculations are notoriously high. Measuring Kilojoules with a power meter will give you much more accurate results, and unfortunately much lower numbers.
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Originally Posted by Toddorado
...and 3,700 calories in 90 miles? That's an awful low number.
Originally Posted by Toddorado
Not to make this about me, but I burn 4,000+ on a 26 mile ride, albeit with many hills. Am I reading this right, that we are talking miles, not km?
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sounds fishy. i think i've seen estimates of about 6,000 for 100 miles.
Only with a heck of a lot of climbing. Here's an example, Fast Century, ride time just over 4 hours (total time 4:36, which included 10-15 minutes rest stop, and a casual first 5-10 miles) so we working pretty hard. And I only burned half of that.

Admittedly there was little climbing, but also factor in I'm a big guy.

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Here's an old-school response from an old guy (who expects to be told, "Get over to the 50+ forum."): I think 90 miles is a very successful ride. 100 miles is just a number. However, that said, it's a number I shoot for a couple of times a year and am very proud when I do it, so keep trying.

I discovered through trial and error that not only does a faster cadence lessen potential knee troubles, it also makes me faster. Try this. On a fairly level stretch of road, pedal at your normal, slow cadence. Check out your speed. Then shift down one cog. Spin faster. Check out your speed again. Mine got faster. I shift down until I feel like I'm spinning so fast I'm going to get tired quicker. Then I back off. I've discovered as I got used to spinning faster, I could maintain a faster cadence without it making me tired.

As far as calories consumed on a ride, I have no idea how you calculate that. On a long ride I go by number of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches consumed. On a century I usually consume 1 1/2, plus a big pile of food at the lunch stop.
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You did good.
Watch and control your pace on the next one.
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Originally Posted by Machka
What exactly does it do?
Friction = heat. Friction and heat cause discomfort and rash like sores over time when your skin, underwear and bibs all rub against each other for a period of time.
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Originally Posted by RacerOne
You know better than that.
Using a calorie calculator, here's the closest I could get...

Calories Burned Calculator
Estimate the calories you burned on your bike ride:
Pace: 16-20mph
Weight: 400 lbs
Time: 1.5 Hours
You burned 3266 calories!
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Just bad planning. Next time make the last part with a tail wind and you won't cry....the hardest part of a century is nutrition. The riding bike part is easy...
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Thanks for encouragement. But check out post#36
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Originally Posted by rmhaas
Friction = heat. Friction and heat cause discomfort and rash like sores over time when your skin, underwear and bibs all rub against each other for a period of time.
And that period of time must be longer than the 90 hours it takes to ride a 1200 km randonnee.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh
Not really. I've done sub 5 hour centuries burning well below 3000 calories.
Really? Were you holding onto to someone else? :wink:

(For what it's worth, I don't really count calories: just factor a gross 25 kcal/km so I can feel good about myself. Maybe I should discount it a little.)
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Originally Posted by Machka
And that period of time must be longer than the 90 hours it takes to ride a 1200 km randonnee.
It clearly works for some people. You don't seem to need it and that's good for you. I've been using chamois cream since I rode on real chamois. I still use it with man made chamois and it helps.
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Originally Posted by Pedaleur
Really? Were you holding onto to someone else? :wink:

(For what it's worth, I don't really count calories: just factor a gross 25 kcal/km so I can feel good about myself. Maybe I should discount it a little.)
Yes, see the file I posted. It was't solo, but I was doing my share of the work. (and the "well below" might have been a slight exaggeration, when I posted it before looking for the file, I thought the Kj's weren't that close to 3000).

Unless those km's have a lot of climbing, 750 calories for an hour at say 18 mph is somewhat high, but not the 200% over estimate you'll see from some calculators.

Relying on rules of thumb, Garmins, online calculators, and heart rate monitors, leads many cyclists to overestimate their calorie burn, which I think is one reason you see a fair number of fat century riders.
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