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Old 05-25-10, 02:55 PM
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So last year when i started cycling I weighted in at a hefty 215+ after a year of cycling and healthy eating I'm a consistent 180 (my goal for the summer is another 10lbs).

Anyway I said that when I got down to 180 I was going to buy myself a new wheel set for my R6 my budget is about 600. Ive been looking at Carbon Tubulars from neuvation. I usually ride 4-5 times a week 20 miles flat @ around 18-19 mph (right now.. ill get faster as the season goes on) and 16-20 miles of hilly streets @ 15-17 mph. (I'm pretty awful at hills) and longer rides on the weekends. My pan for the summer is to start doing group rides. Also where I'm at now as far as riding ability is a starting point for the season I'm working at improving. This is why I was thinking of aero wheels I know they could help me more in the future as in increase me speed then they would right now. So would the neuvations be a good wheel set for me. I would keep the wheels I have on my bike for training and rougher rides. any input or other wheel recommendations.
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I'm looking at acquiring a wheel set as well....my recommendation goes to you talking to psimet about it....you can email him through psimet.com, great guy.
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Is there a specific reason why you want carbon tubulars? Clinchers would probably be more ideal unless you're racing.

At that budget I would consider Neuvations, Souls, handbuilt wheels.
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yeah the tubular was because of price. For the neuvations the clinchers are considerably more.
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Originally Posted by joeya28
yeah the tubular was because of price. For the neuvations the clinchers are considerably more.
have you considered how much running tubs is going to cost? It's not cheaper in the long run even if the upfront cost is lower. The simple nature of clinchers for everyday riding are the way to go in my opinion.
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Tubulars are way more hassle than they are worth for what type of riding you do.

Ditto for "deep dish"

For your price range, you should consider: Neuvation (cheaper than 600! Save the money for other goodies), Soul, Easton, Williams and psimet.
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Depends on what tires you run, I guess. Vittoria Rally $25, glue $4.

I'd definitely keep the clincher wheelset around and keep it ready to go. Backups are always nice.
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Originally Posted by cricket1116
I'm looking at acquiring a wheel set as well....my recommendation goes to you talking to psimet about it....you can email him through psimet.com, great guy.
+1. He built some wheels for my wife last season and she couldn't be happier. I pass on the info because I'd never heard of him until I asked a similar question on BF. I considered Neuvations, Williams, and Souls for her, but in the end, he was far and away the best bang for the buck. And it was great fun to do the research and spec out the build.

Congrats on your weight loss.
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Old 05-25-10, 05:38 PM
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You can get a set of Neuvation M28X wheels for $200. That's REALLY hard to beat value-wise, although I will admit I don't know what Psimet charges for an equivalent set.

And if you really have to spend $600, get a refurbed Garmin 705 with the leftover money.
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I weigh 205 and love my Neuvation M28 AERO3s, they roll forever, have remained true and look great once half of the stickers are removed.
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i'm starting to sound like a shill, which i'm not, but i'll repeat my usual suggestion:

roll with soul:
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
i'm starting to sound like a shill, which i'm not, but i'll repeat my usual suggestion:

roll with soul:
are those clincher or tubular? how much did the run you?
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Old 05-25-10, 11:23 PM
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www.bikesoul.com

also look for soulbikes (the member) on here. s4.0's are clincher and under/at 500 shipped. *sigh* very good looking
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hmm those are nice. id be able to use the same break pads, and their clincher. Their a little heavier, how much of a difference will that make?
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Originally Posted by joeya28
hmm those are nice. id be able to use the same break pads, and their clincher. Their a little heavier, how much of a difference will that make?
they are great wheels that have stayed true and roll smoothly even after taking them through some pretty rough pavement, and quite a few miles.

regarding weight/aero effects, everything is relative. just pick the wheel that seems to make the most sense for your riding and go with it, you wont be able to tell the minor differences between wheelsets that you never rode anyway.
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On that budget I'd just try to find a powertap.
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I am getting more and more interested in those soul wheels. Are those decals removable? not that it matters, just curious. I would prefer the grey or "ghost decals" but I noticed the website says they are no longer available.
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Originally Posted by Val23708
On that budget I'd just try to find a powertap.
$659.99, new. Wired, though:

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...905.380.0.html
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Originally Posted by AngryScientist
they are great wheels that have stayed true and roll smoothly even after taking them through some pretty rough pavement, and quite a few miles.

regarding weight/aero effects, everything is relative. just pick the wheel that seems to make the most sense for your riding and go with it, you wont be able to tell the minor differences between wheelsets that you never rode anyway.
I feel like the souls would make the most sense for me, their clincher, not to heavy and are a little aero and less then the neuvations, but at the same time I want them to grow with me.

How deep of a rim do you need to feel the aero benefits?
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Originally Posted by joeya28
I feel like the souls would make the most sense for me, their clincher, not to heavy and are a little aero and less then the neuvations, but at the same time I want them to grow with me.

How deep of a rim do you need to feel the aero benefits?
thats still relative, and subjective, but i can definitely notice a difference between the souls and semi-aero scirrocos, or fulcrum 5's when i'm moving fast on the bike, there is no denying that.
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Originally Posted by joeya28
I feel like the souls would make the most sense for me, their clincher, not to heavy and are a little aero and less then the neuvations, but at the same time I want them to grow with me.

How deep of a rim do you need to feel the aero benefits?
Given your original post, I doubt very much you will "feel" any aero benefits. Honestly, while fun to research and ruminate over, I think concerns about the aero benefits should play a minimal factor in your decision. With the weight fluctuation, I would be more concerned about durability in the event your weight goes back up.
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Given your original post, I doubt very much you will "feel" any aero benefits. Honestly, while fun to research and ruminate over, I think concerns about the aero benefits should play a minimal factor in your decision. With the weight fluctuation, I would be more concerned about durability in the event your weight goes back up.
Not too concerned about that, Most of the weight came from sitting around in college doing nothing. That plus the fact that in high school I was playing hockey 6 times a week and eating like an mad man to stay healthy. Once hockey was done my eating wasn't haha. It’s hard for a lot of high school athletes to manage their weight after they stop participating in their sport. But I changed my eating habits ( not a temporary diet) and stopped sitting around and got active.
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Originally Posted by TnDiamondback
I weigh 205 and love my Neuvation M28 AERO3s, they roll forever, have remained true and look great once half of the stickers are removed.
I have a neuvation rear wheel, it looks even better with ALL the stickers removed. I got it for a steal as "dent/scratch" and am very pleased with it.
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whats a affordable break pad to use on carbon wheels.

I think I'm going with the souls I just want to price out both options, when I take in to account new weeks and breaks for the carbon wheels in looking at 800+
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