Isn't anyone outraged by what Cavendish said today?
02-11-11, 12:22 PM
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Isn't it just a matter of degree? If someone said the same thing about Bernie Madoff or Jeffrey Dahmer, we'd hear a chorus of right-on's
02-11-11, 12:49 PM
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Doesn't bother me at all. I think it's just part of a good sprinter's social makeup to fire away without thinking. If he were more thoughtful or reserved, I think he wouldn't be winning sprints. When you're mixing it up at 60-70 kmh in a crowd of testosterone-crazed animals, you've got to have a certain mindset which does not include the notion of thinking or backing off! It comes with the territory.
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02-11-11, 12:56 PM
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Doesn't bother me at all. I think it's just part of a good sprinter's social makeup to fire away without thinking. If he were more thoughtful or reserved, I think he wouldn't be winning sprints. When you're mixing it up at 60-70 kmh in a crowd of testosterone-crazed animals, you've got to have a certain mindset which does not include the notion of thinking or backing off! It comes with the territory.
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02-11-11, 12:59 PM
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People forget how young Mark is.
02-11-11, 02:09 PM
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You have to admit though, when Cav speaks his mind he really is telling you exactly what he thinks, no holds barred.
Sometimes things he says comes across really arrogant but IIRC some people close to him have said he is just very forthright and outspoken kind of guy.
Sometimes things he says comes across really arrogant but IIRC some people close to him have said he is just very forthright and outspoken kind of guy.
02-11-11, 03:43 PM
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I agree. Not outraged. Does he literaly wish that for Ricco or any other human. I hope and expect not. We all or most watched the Super Bowl. Is was there any doping involved? I think all sports should have the same scrutiney that cycling does and then there would be enough money for rsearch to stop all of it. Just like asking the question, should a pro football star get a heart transplant after doping and steriods has turned his heart to mush. I don't think cycling is broken. It is the only sport that I know of that is working on the problem.
02-11-11, 03:48 PM
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NOS88, with all due respect, you need to get out of your ivory tower, roll up your sleeves and do a bit of physical labour with the blue collar set. Again trust me on this, they will call a spade a spade, not an "implement for the removal and placement elsewhere of geologically formed particles, decaying vegetable matter and plastic mass comprising a self-setting compound mixed with variable-sized aggregate".
I'm not sure of Cavendish's background, but as a Manx man, I can imagine he has a very independent outlook on life that has made him a winner, and a very gracious one when it comes to recognising those teammates who put him on the podium.
The real issue with doping for mine is not so much that it creates false winners and losers, but that it threatens the lives of the individuals who engage in it... from the elite down to the amateur wannabe.
Frankly, cycling needs characters, as any sport does. Those characters usually have strong opinions about themselves and those around them.
Oh and for the poster who wanted to tarnish-without-proof Cavendish with the doping brush, just have a look at how he and the other sprinters like McEwen pull up at the end of mountain stages, well off the back of the peloton, and struggling to finish inside the time limit.
It's amazing that some posters want to denigrate Cavendish's comments, yet engage in exactly the same sort of rhetoric about him to justify their view. But then again, it is the 50+ forum...
02-11-11, 05:16 PM
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And doesn't the world need a bit more of those sorts of people?
NOS88, with all due respect, you need to get out of your ivory tower, roll up your sleeves and do a bit of physical labor with the blue collar set. Again trust me on this, they will call a spade a spade, not an "implement for the removal and placement elsewhere of geologically formed particles, decaying vegetable matter and plastic mass comprising a self-setting compound mixed with variable-sized aggregate".
I'm not sure of Cavendish's background, but as a Manx man, I can imagine he has a very independent outlook on life that has made him a winner, and a very gracious one when it comes to recognizing those teammates who put him on the podium.
The real issue with doping for mine is not so much that it creates false winners and losers, but that it threatens the lives of the individuals who engage in it... from the elite down to the amateur wannabe.
Frankly, cycling needs characters, as any sport does. Those characters usually have strong opinions about themselves and those around them.
Oh and for the poster who wanted to tarnish-without-proof Cavendish with the doping brush, just have a look at how he and the other sprinters like McEwen pull up at the end of mountain stages, well off the back of the peloton, and struggling to finish inside the time limit.
It's amazing that some posters want to denigrate Cavendish's comments, yet engage in exactly the same sort of rhetoric about him to justify their view. But then again, it is the 50+ forum...
NOS88, with all due respect, you need to get out of your ivory tower, roll up your sleeves and do a bit of physical labor with the blue collar set. Again trust me on this, they will call a spade a spade, not an "implement for the removal and placement elsewhere of geologically formed particles, decaying vegetable matter and plastic mass comprising a self-setting compound mixed with variable-sized aggregate".
I'm not sure of Cavendish's background, but as a Manx man, I can imagine he has a very independent outlook on life that has made him a winner, and a very gracious one when it comes to recognizing those teammates who put him on the podium.
The real issue with doping for mine is not so much that it creates false winners and losers, but that it threatens the lives of the individuals who engage in it... from the elite down to the amateur wannabe.
Frankly, cycling needs characters, as any sport does. Those characters usually have strong opinions about themselves and those around them.
Oh and for the poster who wanted to tarnish-without-proof Cavendish with the doping brush, just have a look at how he and the other sprinters like McEwen pull up at the end of mountain stages, well off the back of the peloton, and struggling to finish inside the time limit.
It's amazing that some posters want to denigrate Cavendish's comments, yet engage in exactly the same sort of rhetoric about him to justify their view. But then again, it is the 50+ forum...
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02-11-11, 06:34 PM
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02-11-11, 08:12 PM
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Now I just got home from work and checked in on this thread. Twas a bad night at the office! But the quip quoted brought a big smile to my face.
A short pee call at Betzwood could get you another PhD in abnormal psychology. Then a short break at Hawes Ave. to watch that action along the trail would sort of top it off.
On your usually rides you get to rub elbows with some of the best and some of the worst.
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A short pee call at Betzwood could get you another PhD in abnormal psychology. Then a short break at Hawes Ave. to watch that action along the trail would sort of top it off.
On your usually rides you get to rub elbows with some of the best and some of the worst.
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02-11-11, 09:14 PM
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Cav is OK. Leave him alone. I agree with one poster, it takes this type person to sprint to a finish. Cav is one of the best at one of the most dangerous few seconds in sports and it takes place after 100+ miles of racing. It is not surprising for him to have this type personality when you consider the nerve he must have.
Another thing, it was asked how Cav could say something like that about another athlete. Ricco, after this latest bout is not much of an athlete. Cav is talking about a doper.
Another thing, it was asked how Cav could say something like that about another athlete. Ricco, after this latest bout is not much of an athlete. Cav is talking about a doper.
02-11-11, 09:31 PM
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I like it. It would seem that some members of the peleton are getting fed up with the dopers. I think that is a good sign. Could Cav have phrased his statement better? Probably. But he made his point very clear.
02-11-11, 09:53 PM
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An autologous transfusion of blood kept way too long in a home fridge is just stupid beyond belief. It's not drugs and it harms no one else but it is incredibly stupid and risky and it's cheating.
Not surprising that others would react strongly.
Not surprising that others would react strongly.
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And doesn't the world need a bit more of those sorts of people?
NOS88, with all due respect, you need to get out of your ivory tower, roll up your sleeves and do a bit of physical labour with the blue collar set. Again trust me on this, they will call a spade a spade, not an "implement for the removal and placement elsewhere of geologically formed particles, decaying vegetable matter and plastic mass comprising a self-setting compound mixed with variable-sized aggregate".
I'm not sure of Cavendish's background, but as a Manx man, I can imagine he has a very independent outlook on life that has made him a winner, and a very gracious one when it comes to recognising those teammates who put him on the podium.
The real issue with doping for mine is not so much that it creates false winners and losers, but that it threatens the lives of the individuals who engage in it... from the elite down to the amateur wannabe.
Frankly, cycling needs characters, as any sport does. Those characters usually have strong opinions about themselves and those around them.
Oh and for the poster who wanted to tarnish-without-proof Cavendish with the doping brush, just have a look at how he and the other sprinters like McEwen pull up at the end of mountain stages, well off the back of the peloton, and struggling to finish inside the time limit.
It's amazing that some posters want to denigrate Cavendish's comments, yet engage in exactly the same sort of rhetoric about him to justify their view. But then again, it is the 50+ forum...
NOS88, with all due respect, you need to get out of your ivory tower, roll up your sleeves and do a bit of physical labour with the blue collar set. Again trust me on this, they will call a spade a spade, not an "implement for the removal and placement elsewhere of geologically formed particles, decaying vegetable matter and plastic mass comprising a self-setting compound mixed with variable-sized aggregate".
I'm not sure of Cavendish's background, but as a Manx man, I can imagine he has a very independent outlook on life that has made him a winner, and a very gracious one when it comes to recognising those teammates who put him on the podium.
The real issue with doping for mine is not so much that it creates false winners and losers, but that it threatens the lives of the individuals who engage in it... from the elite down to the amateur wannabe.
Frankly, cycling needs characters, as any sport does. Those characters usually have strong opinions about themselves and those around them.
Oh and for the poster who wanted to tarnish-without-proof Cavendish with the doping brush, just have a look at how he and the other sprinters like McEwen pull up at the end of mountain stages, well off the back of the peloton, and struggling to finish inside the time limit.
It's amazing that some posters want to denigrate Cavendish's comments, yet engage in exactly the same sort of rhetoric about him to justify their view. But then again, it is the 50+ forum...
I don't see what age has to do with the comments - I am not 50 +.
02-12-11, 02:31 AM
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Someone put a microphone in front of Mark and asked him for a comment. He gave his own. Think I would have said near the same.
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It was an awful thing to say about anyone, ever. But I don't think it was meant literally. Cavendish's sentence started off with well wishes for Ricco "Obviously I hope he does recover well". He doesn't wish him physical harm, but does want him severely, lawfully punished.
If he had made the comment directly to Ricco, then it would've been worse than outrageous.
If he had made the comment directly to Ricco, then it would've been worse than outrageous.
