Weight Differences
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Jose, CA
Posts: 65
Bikes: 2010 Trek 2.1
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Weight Differences
I bought my first alumininum road bike last year and had already put in 1500 miles on it. It is a 2010 Trek 2.1. I absolutely liked every single part of it except for its weight. It tipped my scale at about 21.3 lbs.
My biggest mistake was looking at my friends CAAD 10 4 which makes my bike weigh like a tank now. His stock CAAD 10 4 could very well be on the 15-17 lb. range.
I currently do not have plans of buying another aluminum bike as I love how my 2.1 handles but I was just curious why the big weight difference. Where is that coming from?
My biggest mistake was looking at my friends CAAD 10 4 which makes my bike weigh like a tank now. His stock CAAD 10 4 could very well be on the 15-17 lb. range.
I currently do not have plans of buying another aluminum bike as I love how my 2.1 handles but I was just curious why the big weight difference. Where is that coming from?
#4
Peripheral Visionary
#5
Live to ride ride to live
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,896
Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
It could be a combination of things; lighter carbon frame, lighter wheels and lighter groupo. Dropping weight off of a bike will cost you a few bucks and the cheapest way of dropping weight is to buy a new bike with the components already on it. Manufacturers can get price breaks on things by buying in bulk.
Why not continue to ride your bike until you can't live without cycling, then upgrade your bike and ebay the old one.
Why not continue to ride your bike until you can't live without cycling, then upgrade your bike and ebay the old one.
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: In a crate
Posts: 371
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
I had a 70's 10 speed that weighed over 45 lbs.
I'm now riding a full steel, double butted frame road bike (single speed) that weights 18.4 lbs.
Weight difference doesn't really matter if your not shaving off every pound.
Says me, I've lost 100 pounds with cycling and my distance and speed has increased 500%
I'd go for a aluminum frame and carbon fork and parts.
Riding a full carbon bike makes me think that it might just shatter at any moment. I like the carbon fork because it takes a lot of the shock out of the road.
I'm now riding a full steel, double butted frame road bike (single speed) that weights 18.4 lbs.
Weight difference doesn't really matter if your not shaving off every pound.
Says me, I've lost 100 pounds with cycling and my distance and speed has increased 500%
I'd go for a aluminum frame and carbon fork and parts.
Riding a full carbon bike makes me think that it might just shatter at any moment. I like the carbon fork because it takes a lot of the shock out of the road.
#7
Should Be More Popular
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Malvern, PA (20 miles West of Philly)
Posts: 43,319
Bikes: 1986 Alpine (steel road bike), 2009 Ti Habenero, 2013 Specialized Roubaix
Liked 9,223 Times
in
4,275 Posts
#8
Live to ride ride to live
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,896
Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
A well made carbon bike will out last an aluminum bike. I have a Calfee Tetra. Calfee has been building that same bike since 1987. There are Tetras with 120,000 miles on them that ride like new. Unless a truck runs over my bike, I don't expect that it will break and if it does Calfee can fix it better and cheaper than repairing an aluminum frame.
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,025
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
^ people who are afraid of carbon tend to neglect to mention that Aluminum frames have a finite lifespan, since they will fail from fatigue eventually. They also tend to neglect the fact that many high end Al frames have such thin tubes that the dent easy, which will eventually be a source of failure too.
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Detroit
Posts: 282
Bikes: LS Archon T1, LS Ghisallo, QR TiPhoon
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
weight comes from a lot of places. Wheels are a big one, frame can be big, groupsets can be half a pound or so, tires and tubes, even something as innocuous as bar tape can weigh down your rig.
As somebody that rides a 13.8lb bike i cna say though that the weight really doesn't matter that much
As somebody that rides a 13.8lb bike i cna say though that the weight really doesn't matter that much
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Bellingham, WA
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
As someone who is in the market for a new wheelset I can tell you wheels make a huge difference. Even a cheap alu set from neuvation combined with a lightweight tire and tube I could cut 1.5 lbs. from my bike.
#14
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,685
Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
It could be a combination of things; lighter carbon frame, lighter wheels and lighter groupo. Dropping weight off of a bike will cost you a few bucks and the cheapest way of dropping weight is to buy a new bike with the components already on it. Manufacturers can get price breaks on things by buying in bulk.
Why not continue to ride your bike until you can't live without cycling, then upgrade your bike and ebay the old one.
Why not continue to ride your bike until you can't live without cycling, then upgrade your bike and ebay the old one.
#15
ka maté ka maté ka ora
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: wessex
Posts: 4,423
Bikes: breezer venturi - red novo bosberg - red, pedal force cg1 - red, neuvation f-100 - da, devinci phantom - xt, miele piste - miche/campy, bianchi reparto corse sbx, concorde squadra tsx - da, miele team issue sl - ultegra
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times
in
3 Posts
i remember when 21 lbs was a light racing bike.
#17
Descends like a rock
The weight differences can be anywhere and most likely is a combination of many parts - a little here and a little there - it adds up. Saddle, wheels, seatpost, crank, fork, pedals are probably the biggies (other than the rider). I wouldn't worry about a couple pounds though. You notice that difference most when you're putting it on the bike rack.
#18
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: New England
Posts: 797
Bikes: 2010 Jamis Xenith Comp
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
beyond that, what everyone else said. little differences accumulate...wheels, tires, bar, stem, etc.
#19
Live to ride ride to live
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 4,896
Bikes: Calfee Tetra Pro
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time
in
1 Post
I have heard from a few sources that weight only makes a difference if you are climbing. On flats it makes little or no difference. I am probably carring 15 pounds around my waste more than I should. Dropping that weight would make a much bigger difference in performance than taking a few pounds off of the bike.
#20
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Evanston, IL
Posts: 817
Bikes: Felt F5, Fuji Robaix Pro and a KHS Mountain Bike
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
Are the bikes the same size? Bigger bikes interestingly weigh more, I think it has to do with density and volume but I am not sure. I know my bikes are always above claimed weight and part of that is claimed weights are for i think 54 or 56 cm frames.
#21
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,685
Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
no, it's definitely still the frame, too. i think i saw somewhere that the caad10 frameset is around 1100 grams...really light for an aluminum frame. supposed to be 200g lighter than the caad9. it could easily be half a pound or even a pound lighter than your trek frameset.
beyond that, what everyone else said. little differences accumulate...wheels, tires, bar, stem, etc.
beyond that, what everyone else said. little differences accumulate...wheels, tires, bar, stem, etc.
#22
Shut up legs
I think you will find that your bike compared to your friends CAAD 9-4 is that every item is just a little lighter on the CAAD, thus making 1.5kg difference in the end.
#23
Senior Member
I'm going to go out on a limb and make a generalization: lighter bikes and wheels will instantly feel faster especially when accelerating but in the end when it comes down to maintaining your velocity there is not much difference. Unless your a pro riding up mountains for 6 hours.
#24
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 3,685
Bikes: S5 VWD & SL-7 S works Red.
Liked 0 Times
in
0 Posts
A light bike will feel better and climb better however on a flat, after reaching speed, not much of a difference.
So if you just keep riding on the flats and don't stop and start no reason for a lighter bike.
So if you just keep riding on the flats and don't stop and start no reason for a lighter bike.
Last edited by v70cat; 05-05-11 at 12:49 PM.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
antimike
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
10
12-03-11 07:50 PM
adam_mac84
Clydesdales/Athenas (200+ lb / 91+ kg)
37
01-05-10 10:15 PM