Mavic Aksium - will I "fold them in half"?
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Aksiums are a pretty damn tough wheelset. There a no frills type of wheel as they don't excel in any one category but being sturdy is one of their strong suits. I rode them without any issues then again i only weigh 145 pounds.
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I doubt it... they came stock on my CX bike. Took a pounding for 5 races last year and were as true as the day I got them. I only weighed 172 lbs. but riding a cyclocross races is way more punishing than rolling the road.
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Doubtful that you'll fold those porkers.
I kinda wonder what he was trying to sell you now. Most bikeshops anymore don't know their way around a wheel, so it seems unlikely that he was pushing for a more durable handbuilt set.
Ride the Aksiums. If you do fold 'em, warranty them and sell the warrantied set on E-bay. Then contact a good wheelbuilder.
But my money is on those tubby tanks holding up for you.
I kinda wonder what he was trying to sell you now. Most bikeshops anymore don't know their way around a wheel, so it seems unlikely that he was pushing for a more durable handbuilt set.
Ride the Aksiums. If you do fold 'em, warranty them and sell the warrantied set on E-bay. Then contact a good wheelbuilder.
But my money is on those tubby tanks holding up for you.
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I destroyed the Aksiums, but I didn't fold them in half. I ride the hell out of wheels, and all I did was make them go untrue on damn near a weekly basis. Finally on a ride one night, while doing a sprint, spokes just started popping in the rear. That didn't buckle them or fold them, but made them impossible to ride. Finally got to the point to where truing wasn't going to make them right. Oh, I was around 265 pounds at that time. The shop guy is full of BS, you aren't going to fold them, maybe just whack them out of true from time to time. Wheels aren't designed for people who used to squat 800+ pounds 3 times a week. I have since learned how to take it a bit easier on wheels, and I am riding wheels at 250 pounds that around only 16 spoke (PSIMET is my witness) and they are perfect, but freakin' heavy.
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I destroyed the Aksiums, but I didn't fold them in half. I ride the hell out of wheels, and all I did was make them go untrue on damn near a weekly basis. Finally on a ride one night, while doing a sprint, spokes just started popping in the rear. That didn't buckle them or fold them, but made them impossible to ride. Finally got to the point to where truing wasn't going to make them right. Oh, I was around 265 pounds at that time. The shop guy is full of BS, you aren't going to fold them, maybe just whack them out of true from time to time. Wheels aren't designed for people who used to squat 800+ pounds 3 times a week. I have since learned how to take it a bit easier on wheels, and I am riding wheels at 250 pounds that around only 16 spoke (PSIMET is my witness) and they are perfect, but freakin' heavy.
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Aksiums are great general purpose wheels. I don't think you'll have any problems but the salesperson may have been talking about their less than stellar racing qualities. They seem to deal with weight very well but I know people who destroyed them pretty quickly using them for racing/training. That's just my view on things, give them a try I say.
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Okay.
So the consensus is the LBS was either trying to grab a little more cash out of me or they didn't know what they talking about. Either way I'll be going elsewhere.
Thanks heaps for all of the replies guys. Very helpful.
Cheers.
So the consensus is the LBS was either trying to grab a little more cash out of me or they didn't know what they talking about. Either way I'll be going elsewhere.
Thanks heaps for all of the replies guys. Very helpful.
Cheers.
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I started riding on them when I was 225 and now I am 206. They are still true after over 1000 miles. I bunny hoped on them, hit potholes at 40mph, never had a problem. The braking surface has lot of meat on it. Only one downsize for the Aksium is.....weight.
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I walked into the shop pretty much thinking I was a 63cm...but they were pretty certain that would have been way too big.
The BB to top of seatpost clamp measurement on my current hybrid is 590mm, the same measurement on the 60cm CAAD is 580mm and the 63cm has a 610mm tube.
Now considering I ride my current (hybrid) with a 400mm seat post fully extended I was sure I'd need the 63cm bike as the 60cm had a shorter tube...the LBS was saying you can't compare seat tube between road bikes and hybrids? But to me the seat tube height directly determines the saddle height...?
I didn't get it...
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I've used Aksiums for a few years and am 200lbs. But I also bunny hop and go thru pot holes and take bike road bike off road, the wheels have been fine.
I think you should stick with the Aksiums, after a year or two *IF* you feel you need new wheels, then get handbuilt ones with greater number of spokes, stronger rim etc.
I think you should stick with the Aksiums, after a year or two *IF* you feel you need new wheels, then get handbuilt ones with greater number of spokes, stronger rim etc.
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I forgot to ask...do you find the 63 a bit of a stretch?
I walked into the shop pretty much thinking I was a 63cm...but they were pretty certain that would have been way too big.
The BB to top of seatpost clamp measurement on my current hybrid is 590mm, the same measurement on the 60cm CAAD is 580mm and the 63cm has a 610mm tube.
Now considering I ride my current (hybrid) with a 400mm seat post fully extended I was sure I'd need the 63cm bike as the 60cm had a shorter tube...the LBS was saying you can't compare seat tube between road bikes and hybrids? But to me the seat tube height directly determines the saddle height...?
I didn't get it...
I walked into the shop pretty much thinking I was a 63cm...but they were pretty certain that would have been way too big.
The BB to top of seatpost clamp measurement on my current hybrid is 590mm, the same measurement on the 60cm CAAD is 580mm and the 63cm has a 610mm tube.
Now considering I ride my current (hybrid) with a 400mm seat post fully extended I was sure I'd need the 63cm bike as the 60cm had a shorter tube...the LBS was saying you can't compare seat tube between road bikes and hybrids? But to me the seat tube height directly determines the saddle height...?
I didn't get it...
There's only 1cm tob tube difference between the 60cm and 63cm. The 3cm extra in the head tube which will make for a more relaxed position, less of a bar drop.
I ended buying a bike with 58.8 TT and a 21cm HT, not the CAAD.
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you wont find many wheels that are studier but you will find hundreds that are lighter.
ride the hell out of them and when you upgrade, keep the Aksiums as training wheels
ride the hell out of them and when you upgrade, keep the Aksiums as training wheels
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I forgot to ask...do you find the 63 a bit of a stretch?
I walked into the shop pretty much thinking I was a 63cm...but they were pretty certain that would have been way too big.
The BB to top of seatpost clamp measurement on my current hybrid is 590mm, the same measurement on the 60cm CAAD is 580mm and the 63cm has a 610mm tube.
Now considering I ride my current (hybrid) with a 400mm seat post fully extended I was sure I'd need the 63cm bike as the 60cm had a shorter tube...the LBS was saying you can't compare seat tube between road bikes and hybrids? But to me the seat tube height directly determines the saddle height...?
I didn't get it...
I walked into the shop pretty much thinking I was a 63cm...but they were pretty certain that would have been way too big.
The BB to top of seatpost clamp measurement on my current hybrid is 590mm, the same measurement on the 60cm CAAD is 580mm and the 63cm has a 610mm tube.
Now considering I ride my current (hybrid) with a 400mm seat post fully extended I was sure I'd need the 63cm bike as the 60cm had a shorter tube...the LBS was saying you can't compare seat tube between road bikes and hybrids? But to me the seat tube height directly determines the saddle height...?
I didn't get it...
Edit: I read that you were worried about the seat tube length and seatpost extension. That could limit your bike options. Crank length can also affect that if the difference is big enough. Sounds like compact geo frames could be a problem for you.
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I'm 6'5" and fit a CAAD9 60 cm quite comfortably. 63 is too big for me. Notice that the reach is about the same on the 63, just more seat setback.
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This is the measurement you want to compare between bikes/frames. Road bikes usually call for a different fit than hybrids but it is easier to extrapolate that based on stack and reach than advertised frame size or seat tube length.
Edit: I read that you were worried about the seat tube length and seatpost extension. That could limit your bike options. Crank length can also affect that if the difference is big enough. Sounds like compact geo frames could be a problem for you.
Edit: I read that you were worried about the seat tube length and seatpost extension. That could limit your bike options. Crank length can also affect that if the difference is big enough. Sounds like compact geo frames could be a problem for you.
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This is the measurement you want to compare between bikes/frames. Road bikes usually call for a different fit than hybrids but it is easier to extrapolate that based on stack and reach than advertised frame size or seat tube length.
Edit: I read that you were worried about the seat tube length and seatpost extension. That could limit your bike options. Crank length can also affect that if the difference is big enough. Sounds like compact geo frames could be a problem for you.
Edit: I read that you were worried about the seat tube length and seatpost extension. That could limit your bike options. Crank length can also affect that if the difference is big enough. Sounds like compact geo frames could be a problem for you.
Sorry for the sizing questions here guys....but my local stores don't keep anything above a 58 in stock and won't order one unless I commit to buying it. So I'm sort of in a bind and need to size my bike without sitting on it. My measurements are below for what its worth:
Height 197cm / 6ft 5 and a bit
Inseam 95cm / 37.5in
Arms 81cm / 32in
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So with the CAAD 10s. The 60cm has a stack of 59.3cm and a reach of 40.4cm and the 63cm has a stack 2.9cm bigger but the reach is 0.5cm shorter. My first thought here was that it must be a misprint on the Cannondale website - but probably not. Regardless...it sounds as though I should go for the 63cm.
Sorry for the sizing questions here guys....but my local stores don't keep anything above a 58 in stock and won't order one unless I commit to buying it. So I'm sort of in a bind and need to size my bike without sitting on it. My measurements are below for what its worth:
Height 197cm / 6ft 5 and a bit
Inseam 95cm / 37.5in
Arms 81cm / 32in
Sorry for the sizing questions here guys....but my local stores don't keep anything above a 58 in stock and won't order one unless I commit to buying it. So I'm sort of in a bind and need to size my bike without sitting on it. My measurements are below for what its worth:
Height 197cm / 6ft 5 and a bit
Inseam 95cm / 37.5in
Arms 81cm / 32in
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I ride them and NO problems at 193 lbs. By the way; I think you mean Easton wheels not eastern. If so, EA 70's are also bombproof.
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I really like the concept of stack and reach and that more mfgs are including those with their geo numbers.