Is it normal for alu frames to ping on bumps?
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Is it normal for alu frames to ping on bumps?
My caad9 is a great bike and a lot of fun, but I'm noticing a lot of pings and tings particularly on bumps and cracks in the road. Not always, but often. I've taken a lot of stuff off the bike to see what might be causing it, but even then I still hear them. My working theory is the seat post hitting inside the seat tube but that's harder to test and I still notice it when not sitting. I'm also not convinced that's it because of the carbon wrapping on the post that "should" deaden such sounds. What else could it be (not extra stuff hanging on the bike as I've already checked that) and are there any possibilities that could be a concern?
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For me a loose bottle cage bolt caused this for a while (Also have a Caad 9). Also, sounds like the noises spokes make when de-tensioning.
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When I hit something big on the cross bike, exposed root, whatever.. my aluminum cross bike rings like a bell.
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Thanks for the ideas. It's not spokes as I've had this issue too and the sound is different. Brake cables is something to check and hadn't thought about that. Not chain slap as again that is a different sound that I'm aware of and the bumps are generally much to small for the chain to slap. Stem and handlebars are something to check as well but not sure how without spending money. Will check bolts though to see if that could be it.
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That pinging sound is your front tire picking up debris on the road and slinging it at the bottom part of your down tube.
To verify...put masking tape on the down tube and ride. If the tone of the pinging sound changes, you have your culprit.
Your shifter cables could be slapping against your down tubes as well. Cable donuts will fix that quickly.
To verify...put masking tape on the down tube and ride. If the tone of the pinging sound changes, you have your culprit.
Your shifter cables could be slapping against your down tubes as well. Cable donuts will fix that quickly.
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This. Add metal ferrules to the equation along with any removal of your cable donuts. I'm a nut for having my bike in pristine mechanical condition. (Actually I just enjoy the benefits of wrenching my own bike) My cross bike is whisper quiet except for what you're describing.
Pop the cables along the top tube and you will hear the "exact" same ping. (And I mean the exact tone.) I removed my cable donuts some time ago and just haven't gotten around to getting some more, as well as deadening the cable stop/ferrule contact point. But I'm positive that will solve the ping because I've been listening closely to that for a while now. Just haven't gotten around to it. I'll report back if you don't first.
Pop the cables along the top tube and you will hear the "exact" same ping. (And I mean the exact tone.) I removed my cable donuts some time ago and just haven't gotten around to getting some more, as well as deadening the cable stop/ferrule contact point. But I'm positive that will solve the ping because I've been listening closely to that for a while now. Just haven't gotten around to it. I'll report back if you don't first.
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Also, at one point I thought it was my valve stem popping against my deep V rim because I never use valve nuts. I put the nuts on tight with plumbers tape to buffer the contact point too (just to be sure) ... and no good. Still there.
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Either brake cable or pebbles. You can get little rubber donuts that slip onto the brake cable to elminate this. Swerve around all the pebbles.
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This.
I also ride a CAAD9, and I promise - this is the problem. Test it as follows: Next time you hit a bump and hear the ping:
- Note your speed.
- Do a U-turn
- Go over the same bump again, at the same speed.
- But this time, put your fingers between the cable and the frame - and see if it stops the pinging.
I also ride a CAAD9, and I promise - this is the problem. Test it as follows: Next time you hit a bump and hear the ping:
- Note your speed.
- Do a U-turn
- Go over the same bump again, at the same speed.
- But this time, put your fingers between the cable and the frame - and see if it stops the pinging.
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Crap, totally forgot about that.
This does happen but not the same sound. It's always on a bump - particularly cracks in the road that cause a more "sharp" hit.
Good idea. Will give this a try today if I make it out. Thanks.
This.
I also ride a CAAD9, and I promise - this is the problem. Test it as follows: Next time you hit a bump and hear the ping:
- Note your speed.
- Do a U-turn
- Go over the same bump again, at the same speed.
- But this time, put your fingers between the cable and the frame - and see if it stops the pinging.
I also ride a CAAD9, and I promise - this is the problem. Test it as follows: Next time you hit a bump and hear the ping:
- Note your speed.
- Do a U-turn
- Go over the same bump again, at the same speed.
- But this time, put your fingers between the cable and the frame - and see if it stops the pinging.
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ya, the going out and being methodical about going from part to part ,isolating it from frame should be the easiest route. you could even take some tape or a sock or something to dampen stuff as you go from part to part.
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So there just happens to be a sizable piece of debris at every bump that happens to be placed in the perfect location for the OP's tire to pick it up and fling at the down tube? I doubt it, but it could be any one of a number of things as mentioned already in this thread.
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Okay, I noticed that the the little donut things on the brake cable were all pushed together so I spread them out before my ride today. Unfortunately, I took a different route today and the city went and paved over much of the crummy road. The nerve. Still, seems that on bumps where I would have expected to hear the sound I didn't so maybe the brake cable was the cause of this particular sound.
However, there is still a sound that I think is related to the seatpost or perhaps the seatpost collar. There is still a metallic creak sound that "sounds" like it's coming from there. Not sure I should tighten it though as I was last adjusted by at the lbs with a torque wrench.
Anyway, thanks for the help. One noise down and at least one to go
However, there is still a sound that I think is related to the seatpost or perhaps the seatpost collar. There is still a metallic creak sound that "sounds" like it's coming from there. Not sure I should tighten it though as I was last adjusted by at the lbs with a torque wrench.
Anyway, thanks for the help. One noise down and at least one to go
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However, there is still a sound that I think is related to the seatpost or perhaps the seatpost collar. There is still a metallic creak sound that "sounds" like it's coming from there. Not sure I should tighten it though as I was last adjusted by at the lbs with a torque wrench.
Anyway, thanks for the help. One noise down and at least one to go
Anyway, thanks for the help. One noise down and at least one to go
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Oh, and while there, pick up some carbon paste for your seat post. You might want to go over it just in case. You can also apply a thin bit (very thin bit) of grease to the under side of your saddle rails and the seat post clamp that it goes into. This solves a lot of saddle noise. Good luck.