Muffin Man

wait what

vanderhoogta

I saw one of these frame's in my LBS today, the guy bought it off ebay and the shifter cable is stuck in the frame and screwed. Told him to make it his trainer and go fixed lol

homebrewk

His "street bike."

yummygooey

He ruined it with stickers.

Scrodzilla

Oh, Faz.

I need to paint my Kagero pink stat.

homebrewk

Yes.

dddavid

Agree about the stickers. But what's wrong with the rest?

homebrewk

Oh I don't know. Using $300 road pedals with a $1000+ front wheel "on the street" seems jackass to me.

thirdgenbird

interestingly enough those are the two major components on that build that were designed for road use.

Nagrom_ 

zing!!!!!

redpear

...and we're back to this **** again. This thread really does suck.

yummygooey

u jelly bro

GMJ

Coincidentally, this is also what I had for dinner.

deleterious

I think this is partly because everyone has their own idea of does and doesn't constitute jackassery. For me, it's mostly fashion over function I guess, i.e. bars chopped stupidly short, under-saddle-mounted brake levers, improbable amounts of saddle-bar drop, those metal grips from the first page... If it doesn't affect performance I don't think "jackass", just "bad taste." And taste is all opinion obviously.

So what does everyone else think contributes to making a build jackass? I'm interested.

homebrewk

hmmm. It is my assumption that a "street bike" is a bike that is ridden and locked up in an urban area. I see no problem spending $$$ for components on a road bike, even if it doesn't have gears.

homebrewk

A little.

redpear

I tried to look at it this way, but you have to remember that track bikes on the street is an inherently counterproductive concept. I (and many others) do it because it is fun. Though not all of us choose form over function, we still choose fun over function. I agree that Faz is a little over the top. But he looks like he's having fun, even if it is over function.

Yet even this has exceptions in my view, as there are some bikes that look completely jackass but fun for the rider, and in some ways there is no exact criterion for what constitutes a jackass build. In other ways it feels like it falls under intuition. I can intuitively decide what is a jackass build and what is not. But that is relatively arbitrary. Eventually, it feels like it all depends on how big of a jackass you are at judging someone else's bike.

And that is why this thread sucks.

Robofunc

Buying fancy **** and using it on the street isn't jackass. I understand the feeling you get when some trustafarian has nicer stuff than you, but that's just jealousy--regardless of whether the person "deserves" nice stuff or not. You'd be riding esspensive parts if money were no object, so chill.

Jackassery to me is something that makes you say "How the hell did this person decide that was a good idea?!"

wearyourtruth

agreed. expense is subjective. some people make $20k a year, some make $400k. it's his money and maybe he has plenty to blow (or maybe it's his parents, who knows, not the point). that bike is no more "jackass" than someone who drives their lamborghini on the street. god knows i'd do it if i was mad loaded.

Robofunc

Here's an example of jackassery. Things that qualify this include:

Painful colors
Spoke slider things
That seat
Backwards seatpost
Silly stem
BMX pedals + no retention
Risers

It's a mash-up of the bad habits of lots of FG subsets, with some downright stupid thrown in.

canes10510

You forgot to add the chrome dice valve caps he's got on there.

wearyourtruth

i know this is several pages back, but this is such a jackass thing to do (and i'm not talking about you, OP). people constantly post pictures of their bike with bizarrely awful saddle and bar positions, and then as soon as they are called out on it, the first response is (sometimes it's even written in the original post). "i changed the angle right after." if you don't want to look like a jackass, fix your ****ing bike BEFORE you take a picture of it. is this so hard? my general thought is, of course, that your bike has been like that the whole time and it wasn't until someone saw the picture and said it was wrong that you are like "oh yeah... i fixed that right after" without even the slightest bit of awareness of what an asinine comment that is.

/rant

illdthedj

yah dude one of my hugest pet peeves...or at least what i consider "jackass"...is saddle angle. specifically when the nose is pointing at the front hub.
it specifically makes any bike look (to me) jackass because it shows the person is ignorant, and that they dont ride their bike more than a few miles in a ride, which falls into being a poser for me.
There is no way anyone could ride a road or fixed gear bike with that kind of saddle angle and not have extremely pained hands and wrist, even dudes with popeye arms.

in the topic of what is "jackass" (again, to me) stems in plain old ignorance: building up a bike with parts that dont make any sense, or in fact is detrimental to riding the bike. or detrimental to safety (and usually other people's safety ie. pedestrians/motorists/other riders).

more jackass criteria: trying to make a frame way too big/small for you fit with odd looking component choices or saddle placement or slammed seatpost.

the whole no handlebar tape or grips fad seemed jackass to me as well.
i guess another thing that makes a bike jackass gets into the whole fashion/style thing usually attributed to "fixies"...looks over function.

and lastly....i hate to be vain, but aesthetics. i know looks are subjective, but sometimes there are just some god-awful looking bikes. perfectly rideable, but visually-jackass. again, i guess i'm singling out the whole hipster tarck clown bike fixies. you know, the ones with a purple aerospoke and red rear wheel and green saddle and rasta chain...its nice when you see a well thought out build in aesthetic terms where they balance colors and put thought into, and then you see bikes where it looks like they literally just puked random colors onto a build without any thought.

thats basically my considerations for what is "jackass".
sometimes there are exceptions, but usually there isn't.

however for the sake of this thread i would suggest we all err on the side of the most blatant examples so that it is without a doubt "jackass"

TMonk

you're so refined

illdthedj