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Going Tubeless: Any tips to help get the bead to stay against the rim?

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Old 02-02-12, 02:38 PM
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Larger diameter hose and hole. From what I read the biggest mistake is not having enough VOLUME of air going in.....not to be confused with higher pressure.
Have you watched the Stan's videos?
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Originally Posted by bigbadwullf
Larger diameter hose and hole. From what I read the biggest mistake is not having enough VOLUME of air going in.....not to be confused with higher pressure.
Have you watched the Stan's videos?
Right and the answer is removable valve cores.
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Old 02-02-12, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbadwullf
Have you watched the Stan's videos?
I have - watching Stan himself struggle with the install is what convinced me to stick with tubes on mtb.

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Old 02-02-12, 06:45 PM
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This would be the first review I've seen stating or even implying that tubeless setup with a good sealer is just as prone to ride-stopping flats as a standard tubed setup. So are you saying I wouldn't get any fewer flats by going tubeless?
Dunno. I'm not sure what a "ride stopping flat" is.

In any case, I think what pablo was trying to get across is that it doesn't make much sense spend money to trade in a perfectly functional tubed wheelset for a crappy tubeless wheelset. If you want tubeless, cool. Do it right.
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Old 02-02-12, 07:22 PM
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My only question then is what makes it crappy other than not being purpose-built to run tubeless? Being more difficult to initially air up won't affect how it works on the trails. Other than being judged for it being "ghetto," and facing a potentially more difficult install, what would be the drawback of running tubeless?
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Old 02-02-12, 09:04 PM
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All the other help in the world won't mean crap if you don't have the rim bed built up enough with tape.

I'm running 50/50 on ghetto setup vs. UST rims on my bikes at the moment. Whenever a ghetto setup rim blows apart, it'll get replaced with a UST/Stan's or something tubeless specific rim.

My ghetto setups ARE running UST tires though. Less muss, less fuss. Barely any sealant in them - just enough to lubricate the install. IMO, way better than doing it with regular tires, and worth the weight penalty.

It's not a thorn issue around here, but pinch flats. Running smaller tires with less pressure than I was before, and having way, way fewer "unwanted air loss from tires while riding" moments.

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Old 02-03-12, 07:06 PM
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I never got it to seal, and ended up just adding a few oz of sealant (a Slime / Latex / Antifreeze home brew) to my tubes by cutting a ~pencil-sized hole in the tube itself and simply patching them. I cut the holes along the outside center so the patches are pressed most directly into the inside of the tire.

So far they seem to be holding air (I haven't taken it for an actual ride though), and this might be the best of both worlds (for me): The simple install of a tubed setup, with the flat-resistance of a sealant-filled tubeless setup. Since the latter was really my whole motivation, I have high hopes this will work out.

I did find the thorn hole that gave me my second flat, though. The hole was tiny so having sealant in there should have allowed me to easily keep riding without worry.

Thanks for all the advice!
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Old 02-03-12, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Lindenwood
I never got it to seal, and ended up just adding a few oz of sealant (a Slime / Latex / Antifreeze home brew) to my tubes by cutting a ~pencil-sized hole in the tube itself and simply patching them. I cut the holes along the outside center so the patches are pressed most directly into the inside of the tire.

So far they seem to be holding air (I haven't taken it for an actual ride though), and this might be the best of both worlds (for me): The simple install of a tubed setup, with the flat-resistance of a sealant-filled tubeless setup. Since the latter was really my whole motivation, I have high hopes this will work out.

I did find the thorn hole that gave me my second flat, though. The hole was tiny so having sealant in there should have allowed me to easily keep riding without worry.

Thanks for all the advice!
Next time, just pull the valve stem and pour the stuff in. There's no reason to compromise your tube by puncturing it.
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Old 02-03-12, 08:54 PM
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My tubes don't have removable valve cores, which is actually the whole reason I decided to go tubeless in the first place. I later read about injecting sealant directly through a hole in the tube and decided to try that instead.
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Right and the answer is removable valve cores.
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