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Old 10-12-11, 07:27 AM
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Just a follow up on this thread. I went ahead and purchased one of these bottles and it arrived yesterday. First, yes, it was expensive compared to a plastic bottle but I was looking for something that would compliment some of my nicer Japanese bikes. Wow, it's gorgeous and well crafted! The service and communication from Japan were excellent. Here's link with more photos that the seller sent me, I don't think they were on the original auction:

https://randonneur.jp/bottle/

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I will use this when I finish the vodka, 9.99.
https://www.minibottlelibrary.com/mbl/alpha/kru-spirits/
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how about 8-13 bucks?

google
"seriously safe stainless water bottles"
or
https://www.healthylifewater.com/inde...products_id=84



they have a drinking valve so no need to remove the cap.
comes is candy colors also
I got a red,blue and clear one.(shame no green!)

they are great-I hope to buy a few more stateside



here is nelli with a blue one

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Though I am anything but a fan of plastic, the water bottle thing is best suited to plastic, in my opinion. How many people have to warn about screwed up frame tubes or paint/art damage to get the message across. That said, I cannot wait to finish (actually start) the restoration on my 1939 CCM "Road Racer".

Stainless steel? Not a chance - too heavy! Alloy? Yup but I sure as the heck never intend to take a drink out of one of them. They are 100% aesthetic.





And that same aesthetic concern prompted the installation of this single water bottle mounted to my PX10. Yes, it is plastic and no, I do not intend to use it for drinking...

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I will never get around to making all the things I would like to make. I hope bottles make the "did" list.

Because of the amount of aluminum in my life I try to avoid using it to handle my food and I try keep it away from my mouth. but it's used for food service. Copper is toxic and needs to be tinned or be a special alloy (or something like that).

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Old 10-10-12, 09:13 AM
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Stainless steel? Not a chance - too heavy! Alloy? Yup but I sure as the heck never intend to take a drink out of one of them. They are 100% aesthetic.


- I just weighed my "seriously safe stainless water bottle"
160 g or 6.5 oz
wow that is heavy!?!?

I wont use plastic anymore and aluminum is a no no
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Or you can get one of these for your jersey pocket for only a few dollars less:

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My SS generic dept store bottle is fairly light.
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As much as I like the look of stainless bottles, all mine now sit unused in the kitchen cabinet. I found I like to be able to squeeze the bottle when I'm hot and need a drink or to wet my brow. The SS bottles sweat a lot with ice.
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Originally Posted by randyjawa
Stainless steel? Not a chance - too heavy! Alloy? Yup but I sure as the heck never intend to take a drink out of one of them. They are 100% aesthetic.
Why? Mine work fine.

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What about the Klean Kanteen stainless top bottles. I'm saving my pennies for this Only need 3,925



https://www.kleankanteen.com/products...al/reflect.php

One thing I like about the stainless bottles is that when they fall out of the cage, they usually dent, but still hold water.
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As much as I like the look of stainless bottles, all mine now sit unused in the kitchen cabinet. I found I like to be able to squeeze the bottle when I'm hot and need a drink or to wet my brow. The SS bottles sweat a lot with ice.
yep, +1
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I don't like steel bottles. Heavy and rattle. Aluminum bottles rattle too, though I suppose a tight-fitting cage would solve that issue. I like plastic and have no issues drinking from it, same as I buy milk in plastic jugs, and it is important to be able to squeeze the bottle.
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Originally Posted by jyl
I don't like steel bottles. Heavy and rattle. Aluminum bottles rattle too, though I suppose a tight-fitting cage would solve that issue. I like plastic and have no issues drinking from it, same as I buy milk in plastic jugs, and it is important to be able to squeeze the bottle.
Yes the cage needs to be tight. That stops the rattles.

I had a problem with steel bottles and not being able to squeeze. Secret is to lift the bottom of the bottle over your head and let gravity do the work. Also the bottle top needs to have a little air intake. That's why Klean Kanteen recommends not closing the lid too tight.

My only reason for going to steel though was the horrible taste of plastic bottles, especially when you hit the bottom... yuck.

As others point out though, steel bottles and vintage bikes seem to go together.

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Originally Posted by gerv

As others point out though, alloy bottles and vintage bikes seem to go together.
fixed that for you

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I like the Classic & Vintage taste I get from my 1970's REG plastic bottle. Yum.
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Originally Posted by ScottRyder
Just a follow up on this thread. I went ahead and purchased one of these bottles and it arrived yesterday. First, yes, it was expensive compared to a plastic bottle but I was looking for something that would compliment some of my nicer Japanese bikes. Wow, it's gorgeous and well crafted! The service and communication from Japan were excellent. Here's link with more photos that the seller sent me, I don't think they were on the original auction:

https://randonneur.jp/bottle/

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Those do look cool. One question Scott; they look a bit tapered, and conventional cages take a straight sided bottle. Do these fit well in vintage cages?
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Bottiglie d'acqua !

Bottiglie d'acqua and portabottiglie !!!

Ok, actually not finished with these, as I plane to get the drink tubes and waxed twine ties installed next, but I think they are turning out ok. The large stainless bottles (1 qt @) were an ebay buy for a few bucks, the smaller ones are cheap aluminum water bottles. Cork has replaced the previous tops.
The decals are also from an ebay seller - couple of dollars for all. They represent Treviso and Torino.

The holder is really vintage, and I love the tension adjusters on each side ! The tension tabs are in fact marked with Brevettato something..faintly. The holder will serve as a model for a repro I will braze up with old spokes to fit the larger bottles...
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Originally Posted by rootboy
Those do look cool. One question Scott; they look a bit tapered, and conventional cages take a straight sided bottle. Do these fit well in vintage cages?
Perfect, one of the few alloy or stainless bottle that doesn't rattle. Most of them are used in TA or King cages ..

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Just wanted to pass this along for those looking for a vintage bottle. These are new but have that vintage look.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/authentic-wa...item20ccf911f7
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I simply place this in my wicker basket on front, or wooden crate in rear. I think I'm doing it wrong.

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They look like very nice period correct detail to add to an older bike, but I dunno about spending hundreds of dollars for old handlebar mounted waterbottles and cages is just hard for me to understand...... and most of the time the old ones sold out there look so beat up, rusty (cages) and dinghy. These old aluminum bottles most likely did not have any protective coatings inside to keep you from drinking in the corrosion that might have formed in there through the years...... Unless you can really clean the insides and caps really good and maybe add a food-safe internal coating. Do you guys really want to drink from those things?
I just can never convince myself to ever buy and use used waterbottles of any kind, plastic or metal, I guess,.......Uhmmm....decades old drool DNA from a stranger....Yummy!

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They look like very nice period correct detail to add to an older bike, but I dunno about spending hundreds of dollars for old handlebar mounted waterbottles and cages is just hard for me to understand...... and most of the time the old ones sold out there look so beat up, rusty (cages) and dinghy. These old aluminum bottles most likely did not have any protective coatings inside to keep you from drinking in the corrosion that might have formed in there through the years...... Unless you can really clean the insides and caps really good and maybe add a food-safe internal coating. Do you guys really want to drink from those things?
I just can never convince myself to ever buy and use used waterbottles of any kind, plastic or metal, I guess,.......Uhmmm....decades old drool DNA from a stranger....Yummy!

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+1 +1 +1!!!!
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..... and most of the time the old ones sold out there look so beat up, rusty (cages) and dinghy.
So do I. As does my bike. It's a matching trifecta.

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These old aluminum bottles most likely did not have any protective coatings inside
You mean like bpa?

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I guess,.......Uhmmm....decades old drool DNA from a stranger....Yummy!

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