It's not about the bike. Wait a minute...yes, it is.
07-17-13, 02:34 PM
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I mean, I'm like a kid on December 24th waiting for my Rails to come.
07-17-13, 02:41 PM
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Keep in mind 2 laps isn't really enough time to see much difference in aero. It took them a good chunk of the first lap just to get the bikes up to full speed. If you're trying to see an aero advantage you'd need more like 10 laps. They should have put a power meter in the hubs of both bikes. I'm guessing there's a 2x difference in Wattage
07-17-13, 03:25 PM
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Nah, I think this test was more about which of the 3 bikes had the longest gears. In the 1.5 minute race the pro could probably average >600W. That should be enough to spin out in the highest gears of these bikes on a flat surface, the rest doesn't matter then.
07-17-13, 03:38 PM
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He wasn't limited by the gearing on the hybrid. He averaged right at 25mph. Say the hybrid had 46/14 for a high gear, which would be pretty low for such a bike, 120rpm still gets you 31+ mph.
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07-17-13, 04:15 PM
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Very easily. I used to do this on my Trek 7500FX, hands right on the sides of the stem, tucked all the way with chin on hands and rode through the police speed trap on the side of the road at 30 mph, flat road.
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I'm pretty sure my little sister could have put out more power than that guy.
Including startup time, he averaged about 21 miles per hour over the course of 900 meters.
Including startup time, he averaged about 21 miles per hour over the course of 900 meters.
07-17-13, 04:38 PM
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Keep in mind 2 laps isn't really enough time to see much difference in aero. It took them a good chunk of the first lap just to get the bikes up to full speed. If you're trying to see an aero advantage you'd need more like 10 laps. They should have put a power meter in the hubs of both bikes. I'm guessing there's a 2x difference in Wattage
07-17-13, 05:29 PM
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120, isn't that a bit high for 2 laps, maybe his sustainable cadence is in a more normal range of 90~100 rpm. Giving a speed of 25 mph.
07-17-13, 05:35 PM
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07-17-13, 06:01 PM
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07-17-13, 06:15 PM
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Yes, you would because you compete. You want every last watt to count.
There are still millions of riders out there who wouldn't have a clue what a power meter is, though, and couldn't care less -- that lack of knowledge doesn't impinge on their enjoyment.
So maybe all hope isn't lost.
There are still millions of riders out there who wouldn't have a clue what a power meter is, though, and couldn't care less -- that lack of knowledge doesn't impinge on their enjoyment.
So maybe all hope isn't lost.
07-17-13, 06:17 PM
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Yes, you would because you compete. You want every last watt to count.
There are still millions of riders out there who wouldn't have a clue what a power meter is, though, and couldn't care less -- that lack of knowledge doesn't impinge on their enjoyment.
So maybe all hope isn't lost.
There are still millions of riders out there who wouldn't have a clue what a power meter is, though, and couldn't care less -- that lack of knowledge doesn't impinge on their enjoyment.
So maybe all hope isn't lost.
07-17-13, 06:25 PM
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Here's a quote from the comment section after the Guardian video:
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
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07-17-13, 06:29 PM
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Well, that's easy enough. Gravity is the result of the bending of spacetime. The tricky part is how it resulted from a random quantum fluctuation. I'll get back to you on that one.
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07-17-13, 06:32 PM
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Sure, it IS about the bike.... TYPE, as people mentioned above. Give that pro ANY road bike (even a $150 wal-mart one) and he'd beat any amateur in any bike, baring any mechanical malfunctions.
The ONLY thing that mattered on that professional bike was the bearings, position, and tires. The gearing didn't matter, the electronic shifting didn't matter, the aero didn't matter. Why? He most likely stayed in one gear once he got up to speed which was what, probably 5 or 6 gear changes? He was going in a circle so any wind was negated on the other side (plus he wasn't going fast enough).
I still, and will always argue that it's the rider, not the bike. Unless you are racing, money spent on bikes should go toward longevity and good build quality, not speed.
Saying it's the bike is almost as bad as saying that it's the runner's SHOES that make him fast, not the runner himself.
Besides, IF it was the bike, the Tour de France announcers would be talking MUCH more about the bikes and not nearly as much about the riders. (Think rally racing vs. Nascar)
The ONLY thing that mattered on that professional bike was the bearings, position, and tires. The gearing didn't matter, the electronic shifting didn't matter, the aero didn't matter. Why? He most likely stayed in one gear once he got up to speed which was what, probably 5 or 6 gear changes? He was going in a circle so any wind was negated on the other side (plus he wasn't going fast enough).
I still, and will always argue that it's the rider, not the bike. Unless you are racing, money spent on bikes should go toward longevity and good build quality, not speed.
Saying it's the bike is almost as bad as saying that it's the runner's SHOES that make him fast, not the runner himself.
Besides, IF it was the bike, the Tour de France announcers would be talking MUCH more about the bikes and not nearly as much about the riders. (Think rally racing vs. Nascar)
07-17-13, 06:45 PM
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Here's a quote from the comment section after the Guardian video:
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
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Here's a quote from the comment section after the Guardian video:
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
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07-18-13, 09:25 AM
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You gonna eat that?
I usually get questions like that about pics taken with a crappy cellphone camera.
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07-18-13, 10:00 AM
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Here's a quote from the comment section after the Guardian video:
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
"But what amazes me still at tri events is 15 stone clydesdales with a michieman physique substantially augmented by beer and chippies avoirdupois but then having spent 4 megaquid on road eye candy saving 5 pounds of mass."
I have no idea what the hell he just said.
