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Old 10-18-13, 06:36 PM
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You can also take a longer lease that allows for subletting. Or you can sublet someone else's apartment. Or if you are planning to live there long term, go ahead and run out the 12 month lease and take your time looking for more permanent place.

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1. How do you get a large pizza and a dozen beer home on your bike?
Beverages in my Wald Giant basket, pizzas bungeed on top. This way I can keep an eye on them and make sure no one tries to steal my bounty. Also, warm pizza smell wafting towards me.

2. You've bought your SO some roses... Describe in less than 50 words how you would get them to him/her.
Either in the panniers with the tops sticking out, or laying gently in the basket.

3. You were about to leave work when the tornado sirens sounds. What is the best course of action?
I'm going to change this to the tsunami siren we had at the town where I used to live. Because then the best course of action was to beat cheeks for home, as my apartment complex was on a small hill and the hospital where I worked was right next to the beach.

4. You've met an individual and would like to ask them to a date-type function (dinner, the movies, a pub crawl...). However, this individual has never ridden a bike. What would you do?
Maybe it's just because I'm probably younger than most people here, but the assumption that people will pick up a person they barely know for a first date seems REALLY weird to me. I don't know any of my age-group friends who would do that. They meet at the location and have their date, then go their separate ways. Someone coming to pick the other person up seems like the next step to a serious relationship.

5. A work colleague challenges you on the veracity of climate change and suggests you are an eco-ninny. How would you respond?
"Hmmm. <change subject>"
It's just not worth it to try, I've found. I've got better things to do.
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Originally Posted by gerv
1. How do you get a large pizza and a dozen beer home on your bike?
Vegan teetotaler. If I'm going to a party I'll just bring a bottle of wine.

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2. You've bought your SO some roses... Describe in less than 50 words how you would get them to him/her.
I grow my own flowers, but I'd just cut a 2-liter in half throw the flowers in there and then tape it shut and throw it in my backpack

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3. You were about to leave work when the tornado sirens sounds. What is the best course of action?
Not living in the midwest. Alternatively stay at work.
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4. You've met an individual and would like to ask them to a date-type function (dinner, the movies, a pub crawl...). However, this individual has never ridden a bike. What would you do?
Ask them out. Not sure how this matters.
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5. A work colleague challenges you on the veracity of climate change and suggests you are an eco-ninny. How would you respond?
Wonder why they want to talk about politics and agree that I'm an eco ninny.
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I grow my own flowers, but I'd just cut a 2-liter in half throw the flowers in there and then tape it shut and throw it in my backpack
Now that is an "elegant" solution.

As for the last question, last night a co-worker spent about an hour illuminating me on how the Illuminatti are co-opting rap singers as part of their plot to take over the world. Still, he made more sense than the climate change denialists!
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Old 10-23-13, 03:59 PM
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You're telling me they aren't?
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Old 10-23-13, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by kookaburra1701
Maybe it's just because I'm probably younger than most people here, but the assumption that people will pick up a person they barely know for a first date seems REALLY weird to me. I don't know any of my age-group friends who would do that. They meet at the location and have their date, then go their separate ways. Someone coming to pick the other person up seems like the next step to a serious relationship.
The question never mentioned anything about picking them up. That'd be the last thing you'd think of unless you had a Yuba....

Do younger folks just show up at a location? I guess that would solve the problem. They could just text each other if one of them was late.
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Old 10-23-13, 05:42 PM
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Yeah haha. I don't think I've ever swung by someones house before going out to do whatever we're gonna do.

The house is for afterwards
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Originally Posted by kookaburra1701
Maybe it's just because I'm probably younger than most people here, but the assumption that people will pick up a person they barely know for a first date seems REALLY weird to me. I don't know any of my age-group friends who would do that. They meet at the location and have their date, then go their separate ways. Someone coming to pick the other person up seems like the next step to a serious relationship.
I'm not sure it's an age thing. I'm approaching 60 and I always made it a practice to meet a date at the destination. As a woman, I never liked the idea of telling someone I barely knew where I lived, especially if my date happened to be a man. And I learned through experience that it was really useful to have the means to GTFO on my own if the date went poorly. Besides that, it always seemed to me that providing my own transportation (and paying my own way) was a signal that I had no interest in being dependent on someone else. It did weed out a few individuals who couldn't quite handle this.

I often would offer people a ride home after going out though, since it was usually the case that I had a car and they didn't. These days I only have bikes, so any dates would have to transport themselves.
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Old 10-24-13, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by kookaburra1701

Maybe it's just because I'm probably younger than most people here, but the assumption that people will pick up a person they barely know for a first date seems REALLY weird to me. I don't know any of my age-group friends who would do that. They meet at the location and have their date, then go their separate ways. Someone coming to pick the other person up seems like the next step to a serious relationship.
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I'm not sure it's an age thing. I'm approaching 60 and I always made it a practice to meet a date at the destination. As a woman, I never liked the idea of telling someone I barely knew where I lived, especially if my date happened to be a man. And I learned through experience that it was really useful to have the means to GTFO on my own if the date went poorly. Besides that, it always seemed to me that providing my own transportation (and paying my own way) was a signal that I had no interest in being dependent on someone else. It did weed out a few individuals who couldn't quite handle this.

I often would offer people a ride home after going out though, since it was usually the case that I had a car and they didn't. These days I only have bikes, so any dates would have to transport themselves.
I think it is partially age related, however I think it has more to do with the people involved and the relationship. When I was in high school (long time ago) it was expected that you would pick the young lady up at her house, primarily so the parents could size you up and determine your intentions. I went on many a date where we rode bicycles, even when I could drive, probably because it was easier than hassling mom or dad for the car keys. Funny thing is I ran across one lady that I dated the other day in the grocery store (been 38 years since we dated :eek) we had gone our separate ways after high school. I am still cycling and while definitely not nearly as skinny as I was in school I am still in decent shape, unfortunately time has not been as kind to her.

If I were dating today I suspect it would be meeting someone somewhere rather than picking them up at home, but for some strange reason I think my wife might object to me "dating" anyone else.

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Originally Posted by kookaburra1701
Maybe it's just because I'm probably younger than most people here, but the assumption that people will pick up a person they barely know for a first date seems REALLY weird to me. I don't know any of my age-group friends who would do that. They meet at the location and have their date, then go their separate ways. Someone coming to pick the other person up seems like the next step to a serious relationship.
Times have changed. I guess younger people are more distrustful. When one person picks up the other, it increases the time they can spend together and makes for a car-lite evening. In the beginning of ones dating life, it also provides an opportunity for the folks to meet the boy and get a chance to know him. I never felt that somehow, picking someone up for a date implied anything serious. No more than giving anyone a ride.

But that's okay. When I do a date, odds are that the women I date are playing by the same rules as I do, since they are about my age. And first dates were rarely with someone you "barely know". Usually, you have had a number of chances to get to know the person before in group settings, at a friends house, on a group trip.

The only times you would date cold, with a person you don't know well, was if you are doing dating via the dating newspapers, or online dating. And there, hopefully you spend a while exchanging communications to get to know each other. And yes, when dating cold like that, then you both drive to the appointed place and meet there.
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Old 10-24-13, 10:08 AM
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Hmmm, I guess there was the whole meeting the parents thing for most people, which would set up the habit of picking someone up. I never experienced that. My own parents would have expected me to be capable of sizing people up without their help. And all through high school I was in a relationship with someone I had known since we were kids, so I didn't date until I was well into adulthood.

But most of the dates I've had in my life were of the dating cold variety. They were my opportunity to get to know the person; I seldom did that beforehand.
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The question never mentioned anything about picking them up.
Mostly it was on my mind because whenever there's an article about people my age driving less, the comments are full of "OMG BUT HOW TO THEY DATE?!?!?!" which gets old. I mean, the majority of humans on the planet throughout history have managed to procreate without the aid of a personal automobile, so I think we'll muddle along somehow.

Do younger folks just show up at a location? I guess that would solve the problem. They could just text each other if one of them was late.
Pretty much. But when the relationship gets more serious, actual "dates" peter out and you just spend more and more time with the person. I mean, on special occasions like Valentines day or an anniversary you might do something special. Of course, this is all just from my experience and what my group of friends tend to do. YMMV.
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Back in the day, the automobile was also where most dating relationships were consummated. Parental homes and dorm rooms were out of the question for sex, so the only question left was, "Front seat or back?" Being carfree in that era had some definite drawbacks!
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Originally Posted by gerv
1. How do you get a large pizza and a dozen beer home on your bike?
2. You've bought your SO some roses... Describe in less than 50 words how you would get them to him/her.
3. You were about to leave work when the tornado sirens sounds. What is the best course of action?
4. You've met an individual and would like to ask them to a date-type function (dinner, the movies, a pub crawl...). However, this individual has never ridden a bike. What would you do?
5. A work colleague challenges you on the veracity of climate change and suggests you are an eco-ninny. How would you respond?

Any other questions? Answers? Cliff notes?
1. Rack & panniers - no problem
2. In a pannier - gently! I've done this *
3. Pull up the radar, and decide to wait it out, or if it's safe to continue (I usually wait - I hate storm winds)
4. Xtracycle - let them be a passenger. I did this with my girlfriend early on - then she got her own bike, now we own a tandem
5. Shrug. You can't fix stupid.

* They weren't roses, but a variety of flowers. They handled the short trip from the florist with no issue.

Questions?

Q: How do you move across town?
A: Invite a dozen cyclists with trailers and cargo bikes. Supply food.

Q: How do you give away a heavy wooden kitchen table to your car-free daughter?
A: With a lot of bungee cords, like this.

Q: How do you take a sick dog to the vet:
A: Trailers are great for this, like this.

Q: What do you do when you're hosting some friends out of town, and they're not renting a car?
A: Have spare bikes.
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1. Rack & panniers - no problem
2. In a pannier - gently! I've done this *
3. Pull up the radar, and decide to wait it out, or if it's safe to continue (I usually wait - I hate storm winds)
4. Xtracycle - let them be a passenger. I did this with my girlfriend early on - then she got her own bike, now we own a tandem
5. Shrug. You can't fix stupid.

* They weren't roses, but a variety of flowers. They handled the short trip from the florist with no issue.

Questions?

Q: How do you move across town?
A: Invite a dozen cyclists with trailers and cargo bikes. Supply food.

Q: How do you give away a heavy wooden kitchen table to your car-free daughter?
A: With a lot of bungee cords, like this.

Q: How do you take a sick dog to the vet:
A: Trailers are great for this, like this.

Q: What do you do when you're hosting some friends out of town, and they're not renting a car?
A: Have spare bikes.
Wow, you are an awesome utility rider!
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Wow, you are an awesome utility rider!
Second that.

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Originally Posted by dcrowell
Q: How do you move across town?
I hire a team of burly roustabouts and a Uhaul.

Q: How do you give away a heavy wooden kitchen table to your car-free daughter?
I gave away a heavy solid wood desk by dragging it out onto my porch and putting up a "free to good home" sign. It was gone in an hour. If that hadn't worked I would have put it on my dolly and taken it down the street to the local charity shop.

Q: How do you take a sick dog to the vet:
My vet has a mobile clinic in a sprinter van. She can even perform minor surgery in there, if my cat needed more, I'd take a taxi. I do have a cat carrier back pack, and the bike path that goes by my apartment also goes by my other vet's clinic.


Q: What do you do when you're hosting some friends out of town, and they're not renting a car?
We'll either walk, or I'll get them a $10 book of buss passes and a transit map. But most of my friends have their own bikes and the whole reason they're staying with me is to get an early start on some nice long road rides.
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There is a thread going just now asking us to brainstorm for topics, and this is along the lines of some of the suggested topics. So I thought I would bump it to get it going again.

Let's keep talking about how we haul unusual items. Have you had to carry anything interesting lately?
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