dgasmd

I've had this campy 10sp Record group on one of my bikes for about 5 years now. The bottom bracket feels like it is grinding big time when I turn the pedals. I have isolated it by a process of elimination to the bearings. Last night I took it all apart and the bearings feel like grinding sand. I degreased and cleaned the heck out of it and re-lubed heavily with white lighting grease. Same for the cups. I put it all back together and it feels so much smoother, but nowhere near as smooth as my SR 11sp bottom bracket bearings (ceramic?) on my other bike.

I would like to replace the bearings on the 10sp with SR ceramic bearings. So, do I simply removed the cups from Record and replace them with SR cups? Do I also replace the 10sp Record bearings with the SR bearings and seals? Is this a straight swap? Do they fit interchangeably? Is there anything I need to know or do other than a straight swap? I guess I will also need to get a bearing pulling tool as I don't have one. Any in particular recommended?

FBinNY 

I don't know the vintage of your BB, but the Records of the era that I'm familiar with have a central cartridge with pressed-on bearings, not intended for user service. However they can be replaced if you have a bearing press (or improvise one), and a way to remove the wire spring clip that holds them in place.

Bearing location and offset are critical because the bearings are pressed to the spindle, and the outer races located by the spacer tube between them.

ultraman6970

Love when people come with weird theories to fix their campy stuff

dgasmd

Enlighten me. Which is the weird theory? To clean and lube non-serviceable bearing to see if that was the problem? I realize they are not serviceable if that's what you are referring to. This was also a bandaid so I can ride while I order the new bearings.

Seems this question is too complicated: can I just do a straight replacement of bearings and cups from UT to UT Cult? I already found the answer is YES, so hopefully that will help someone else searching here!!

HillRider

This is right around the time Campy went from square taper cartridge bottom brackets to external bearing Ultra Torque cranks. My 2006 Chorus was a square taper cartridge but the change came shortly after that so 5 years ago (2008?) it's quite possible the OP has an Ultra Torque crank. And, based on his later posting, it seems that's exactly what he has.

dgasmd

The first sentence in the post says it is 5 years old or so. I guess I could have made it even more specific by saying UT, but I thought the year and the mention of cups would make it obvious enough.

FBinNY 

You're right, but time's compressed after a few years, so I have to concentrate to remember that UT is that old. I read cups as lockrings, as used on the "old" cartridge BBs.

So disregard my response as being anachronistic.

Reynolds 

Maybe OT, but in my experience sometimes sealed cartridge bearings can be saved by carefully lifting the seal, cleaning and repacking and fitting the seal again.

Zef

NO...that is not what the first sentence of your post says...you wrote:

"I've had this campy 10sp Record group on one of my bikes for about 5 years now."

That does not give the reader any solid info as to whether you are dealing with a cartridge bearing bb or an external bearing bb. So pull you panties out of the bunch caught up in your arse and calm down that insolent tone as the folks here are trying to help you despite the fact that you have left it to them to speculate what you are dealing with.

-j

FBinNY 

I'm sorry, speaking as one who was "mislead" by the "5 years now", I'm not upset, nor do I see his response as having an insolent tone, nor as coming from someone with his panties in a bunch.

Any fair reading of all the posts here would indicate that you're the only with his panties in a bunch. Please stop looking for, and pointing attitude problems that don't exist.

HillRider

Naah, his response wasn't insulting, at least I certainly didn't read it that way either. And yes, that "5 year" was ambiguous for those of us who don't keep up on Campy's annual changes.

Zef

That "5 year" was ambiguous even for those of us who try to.

-j

ultraman6970

Since we have seen guys asking how to powder coat carbon fiber frames, to assume based in the lack of information that you wanted to put ceramic bearings in a cartridge, thing that I would have love to see Quite creative, nice you were talking about ultra - torque because the answer changes completely We can't read minds and many times we answer based in the info given, you ask the wrong question you get the wrong answer.

Hope you know somebody with the tools to replace those bearings, and yes you can put any bearings you want in there as long are the right size.

Good luck

ps: take easy dude