San Francisco, to place bike lockers on public streets
11-23-13, 12:34 PM
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San Francisco, to place bike lockers on public streets
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11-23-13, 02:56 PM
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I love this idea from the article:
"Last month, the Board of Supervisors imposed a goal of reducing bike thefts by 50 percent in the next several years."
That is a lofty goal but one that I support 100%.
Thanks for posting the article.
"Last month, the Board of Supervisors imposed a goal of reducing bike thefts by 50 percent in the next several years."
That is a lofty goal but one that I support 100%.
Thanks for posting the article.
11-23-13, 04:37 PM
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According to the article Nob Hill may be first.
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11-23-13, 04:59 PM
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quite nice. we have them at the uni and they're quite useful. i like having protection from the elements when locking/unlocking and putting the lights on.
11-23-13, 05:07 PM
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11-25-13, 12:09 PM
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I love the idea, being someone who works in SF, commutes to SF by bike (but doesn't live in SF). I would love to make it more reasonable to use my bike to run errands or go somewhere after work, but I don't feel comfortable locking my bike up outside. I have started using the new Bike Share to be able to run errands, but time limit and available locations limits what I can reasonable do with bike share. If they added more of these lockers in areas I am likely to go I would probably use them. Of course I am sure they would always be full, just like parking spaces in SF.
11-25-13, 12:50 PM
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Are you sure he wasn't addressing his post to San Francisco?
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This is not what I thought; these are for "residential" lockers, for outdoor parking near where you live, like a condo where you share a garage with somebody else in your condo. Do people really not have room for their bikes inside their houses? I see tons of threads around here with creative solutions for storing bikes inside tiny apartments.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
11-25-13, 04:57 PM
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This is not what I thought; these are for "residential" lockers, for outdoor parking near where you live, like a condo where you share a garage with somebody else in your condo. Do people really not have room for their bikes inside their houses? I see tons of threads around here with creative solutions for storing bikes inside tiny apartments.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
It's dirty, it smells and it means you clean the bike everyday. It was easier in Germany, when I threw it in the bicycle room in the basement with all of the other bikes.
I strongly recommend against it.
11-25-13, 05:19 PM
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This is not what I thought; these are for "residential" lockers, for outdoor parking near where you live, like a condo where you share a garage with somebody else in your condo. Do people really not have room for their bikes inside their houses? I see tons of threads around here with creative solutions for storing bikes inside tiny apartments.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
What is more useful is secure bike parking solutions for people who are at work. I'm lucky, my work has a chain-link+barb-wire enclosing the campus (incl parking), plus it's in a pretty nice suburb, so I'm not worried about my bike at all. But if I worked in an office downtown where my only option was to lock my bike up on the sidewalk, exposed to thieves and elements, a bike locker would be a much better option.
IMO this is a seriously flawed proposition. For the taxpayer to be footing the bill to build at home bike storage isn't right to begin with. But to do it in a neighborhood where folks are among the most affluent, and probably have the highest square footage per person in the city (just guessing here) is Robin Hood backwards.
I don't have an issue with the concept of this kind of bike storage, but it should be downtown rather than residential areas. Or the city can permit the lockers and provide the space, if homeowners can get together and foot the bill for them.
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11-25-13, 05:30 PM
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Interesting, I skimed this article as I had read a similar article a few days ago that positioned this differently - with locations downtown and paying by the hour, not making it sound like a resident only bike storage.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...san-francisco/
I am in support of pay per hour bike parking options around the city for anyone to use. I am against building bike parking garages for residents only.
https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/201...san-francisco/
I am in support of pay per hour bike parking options around the city for anyone to use. I am against building bike parking garages for residents only.
11-25-13, 06:50 PM
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Cyclists pay taxes too. If the city is providing free on street parking for motorist in residential areas, is it not reasonable to also provide safe reasonable on street parking for commuting/working cyclists.
How many tax paying cyclists can benifit from a single car stall?
If the on street parking is metered then the on street bike lockers should be metered as well.
How many men might be able to cycle commute once they did not have to deal with a significant other saying no to the bicycle in the apartment?
How many tax paying cyclists can benifit from a single car stall?
If the on street parking is metered then the on street bike lockers should be metered as well.
How many men might be able to cycle commute once they did not have to deal with a significant other saying no to the bicycle in the apartment?
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11-26-13, 12:55 AM
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I like it but don't get why they don't just start with a few in downtown and other commercial areas where riders actually need parking for work. Residents usually just bring their bikes indoors.
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I just started storing my bike in my flat and to be honest it sucks.
It's dirty, it smells and it means you clean the bike everyday. It was easier in Germany, when I threw it in the bicycle room in the basement with all of the other bikes.
I strongly recommend against it.
It's dirty, it smells and it means you clean the bike everyday. It was easier in Germany, when I threw it in the bicycle room in the basement with all of the other bikes.
I strongly recommend against it.
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I think it is kind of silly. Virtually everyone's apartment or house has room for a bicycle, even in San Francisco, so these lockers serve no significant need. At the same time, they cost public money and essentially award a few people exclusive rights to a parking space.
Granted, sometimes you'll have an older apartment building with a tiny elevator and narrow stairs going up five or six floors, so getting a standard bicycle to an apartment on the top floor is hard. That's why they make folding bikes - and apartment-size refrigerators, 24" ranges, stackable washer/dryers, and the other things you have to put up with to live in the city. Even those older buildings usually have a common space that could be converted to communal hanging bike storage.
Granted, sometimes you'll have an older apartment building with a tiny elevator and narrow stairs going up five or six floors, so getting a standard bicycle to an apartment on the top floor is hard. That's why they make folding bikes - and apartment-size refrigerators, 24" ranges, stackable washer/dryers, and the other things you have to put up with to live in the city. Even those older buildings usually have a common space that could be converted to communal hanging bike storage.
