So...guide me in the right direction...please...
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So...guide me in the right direction...please...
I have my main bikes. The one I ride (LeMond), the one I just love (Torpado), and the one I commute on (Bianchi Limited turned Townie). Now I want to build my N + 1, and I want it to have fancy lugs (Nervex style, not Hetchins...I don't have that kind of coin). Not much of anything comes up for sale around me in my size (60cm-ish). Plus, I don't know which brands I should be looking at...and which I should not.
I am sure there are a lot of things that I am missing, but I want this bike to be a slow build...something that I can set goals with and work on.
Any suggestions? Brands? For sale? Etc....
Thanks...oh and pictures would be great too!
I am sure there are a lot of things that I am missing, but I want this bike to be a slow build...something that I can set goals with and work on.
Any suggestions? Brands? For sale? Etc....
Thanks...oh and pictures would be great too!
04-04-14, 05:17 AM
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So...guide me in the right direction...please...
I'd first ask what bikes do you like? And what sort if bike do you want?
French bikes used Nervex lugs quite a bit. Peugeot PX-10, Motobecane Grand Record.
Can't go wrong with a Schwinn Paramount.
Another forum member just discovered his chrome bike is a Mondia, great paint jobs on these.
Raleighs - the Super Course, International, some Competitions.
French bikes used Nervex lugs quite a bit. Peugeot PX-10, Motobecane Grand Record.
Can't go wrong with a Schwinn Paramount.
Another forum member just discovered his chrome bike is a Mondia, great paint jobs on these.
Raleighs - the Super Course, International, some Competitions.
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Agree with what's been mentioned above. Fancy lugs on a somewhat less expensive classic bike makes me think 60-70's Peugeot like a PX10. Maybe an early Gitane, or one of the desirable Raleighs. Going a bit later, sometimes you can find a Serotta or Masi for less than a kings ransom.
Lower cost project might be taking one of the early lugged MTB's and doing a 650b project. Some of those are diamond(back)s in the rough. No fancy lugs, more of a blank canvas...
Lower cost project might be taking one of the early lugged MTB's and doing a 650b project. Some of those are diamond(back)s in the rough. No fancy lugs, more of a blank canvas...
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Early '70s Motobecane Grand Jubiles are really, really nice bikes, and are bargain priced. But, you might fall between their sizes (as I do), and I have had a couple that had misaligned forks. Still, very much worth considering....
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Don't forget the Capella/Nervex lugged Raleigh Super Courses though - these are superb riders and commonly seen in the 23-1/2" size.
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Perfect. Thanks. I knew about the Paramounts...main problem is so does everyone else ($$$).
I was thinking about a PX 10, but like the idea of the Raleigh a little better. I don't know why.
I was thinking about a PX 10, but like the idea of the Raleigh a little better. I don't know why.
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What is your intent for this bike, to ride or to restore and admire and ride only occasionally? It make a different in what you'll "settle for" and how you equip it.
What kinds or cultures of bikes perk your interest? No point in building, say, a beach cruiser or an unusual nationality touring bike if they don't interest you.
Why are you doing this, because you enjoy the building process or because certain bikes speak to you emotionally?
Once you have a reasonable answer then you can start looking around. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand unless you are attracted to it for its own sake or a particular model you admired years ago, e.g. PX10, Grand Record, Paramount, Fuji Finest (Bestest?). Or maybe you just want something exotic and pretty and rare. You look around for the frame. The right one will speak to you, and then you'll lose the ebay auction
and look around some more, maybe re-evaluate your goals. Eventually the right bike will show up on your doorstep.
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Not having to deal with french-ness?
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Interesting idea. I've got an '83 Diamondback Ridge Runner with reasonably fancy lugs. Came with awful rattle-can repaint, but at some point I'll probably spend the time and energy (or $$) to do it up right, and it's gonna look really spiffy.
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You've gotten some great answers, but I'd say to the wrong questions. First ask yourself, even if you can't answer or if the answer is admittedly fluid:
What is your intent for this bike, to ride or to restore and admire and ride only occasionally? It make a different in what you'll "settle for" and how you equip it.
What kinds or cultures of bikes perk your interest? No point in building, say, a beach cruiser or an unusual nationality touring bike if they don't interest you.
Why are you doing this, because you enjoy the building process or because certain bikes speak to you emotionally?
Once you have a reasonable answer then you can start looking around. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand unless you are attracted to it for its own sake or a particular model you admired years ago, e.g. PX10, Grand Record, Paramount, Fuji Finest (Bestest?). Or maybe you just want something exotic and pretty and rare. You look around for the frame. The right one will speak to you, and then you'll lose the ebay auction and look around some more, maybe re-evaluate your goals. Eventually the right bike will show up on your doorstep.
What is your intent for this bike, to ride or to restore and admire and ride only occasionally? It make a different in what you'll "settle for" and how you equip it.
What kinds or cultures of bikes perk your interest? No point in building, say, a beach cruiser or an unusual nationality touring bike if they don't interest you.
Why are you doing this, because you enjoy the building process or because certain bikes speak to you emotionally?
Once you have a reasonable answer then you can start looking around. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand unless you are attracted to it for its own sake or a particular model you admired years ago, e.g. PX10, Grand Record, Paramount, Fuji Finest (Bestest?). Or maybe you just want something exotic and pretty and rare. You look around for the frame. The right one will speak to you, and then you'll lose the ebay auction
and look around some more, maybe re-evaluate your goals. Eventually the right bike will show up on your doorstep.The intent if this bike would be for the occasional ride, the occasional commute, but more for the enjoyment if building and admiring. Not wanting to do a full on restoration, but rather starting with a frame in good condition and building a comfy, cool rider. No beach cruisers or big tires. Only lookin for a roadbike with some class.
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Centurion Pro Tour
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Chromed lugs, very nice paint, and a blank canvass otherwise.
Centurion Pro Tour
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Chromed lugs, very nice paint, and a blank canvass otherwise.
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What budget ???
here are a couple of example in the bay area...not too big of a drive fron SLO (if I recall your location correctly)
not super fance lugs, but nice long points Vintage 1973 Holdsworth Mistral Road Bike 60cm - $1295 (mountain view)
Vintage 1973 Holdsworth Mistral Road Bike 60cm
motebcane 57 Vintage Motobecane Grand Jubile with Vitus Tubing, BEAUTIFUL ! - $375 (san jose south)
Vintage Motobecane Grand Jubile with Vitus Tubing, BEAUTIFUL !
another motebecane for the wife bike Womens Motobecane Mixte Road/Commuter Bike
gitane hard to tell from pic details Cycle Gitane (Made in France) Vintage Road Bicycle - $100 (san jose downtown)
Cycle Gitane (Made in France) Vintage Road Bicycle
peugot 60 cm claim 531 Peugeot Road Bike * 60cm - $345 (campbell)
Peugeot Road Bike * 60cm
raleigh Full English-58cm Raleigh Super Course 12-Carlton-Orange-Reynolds 531 - $400 (san jose Full English-58cm Raleigh Super Course 12-Carlton-Orange-Reynolds 531
raleigh very little infor...vintage road bike - $200 (san jose north)
vintage road bike
raleigh competiong in parts 1974 Raleigh Competition Bicycle - $400 (san jose east)
1974 Raleigh Competition Bicycle
here are a couple of example in the bay area...not too big of a drive fron SLO (if I recall your location correctly)
not super fance lugs, but nice long points Vintage 1973 Holdsworth Mistral Road Bike 60cm - $1295 (mountain view)
Vintage 1973 Holdsworth Mistral Road Bike 60cm
motebcane 57 Vintage Motobecane Grand Jubile with Vitus Tubing, BEAUTIFUL ! - $375 (san jose south)
Vintage Motobecane Grand Jubile with Vitus Tubing, BEAUTIFUL !
another motebecane for the wife bike Womens Motobecane Mixte Road/Commuter Bike
gitane hard to tell from pic details Cycle Gitane (Made in France) Vintage Road Bicycle - $100 (san jose downtown)
Cycle Gitane (Made in France) Vintage Road Bicycle
peugot 60 cm claim 531 Peugeot Road Bike * 60cm - $345 (campbell)
Peugeot Road Bike * 60cm
raleigh Full English-58cm Raleigh Super Course 12-Carlton-Orange-Reynolds 531 - $400 (san jose Full English-58cm Raleigh Super Course 12-Carlton-Orange-Reynolds 531
raleigh very little infor...vintage road bike - $200 (san jose north)
vintage road bike
raleigh competiong in parts 1974 Raleigh Competition Bicycle - $400 (san jose east)
1974 Raleigh Competition Bicycle
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Budget...obviously cheaper is always better, but if a bike screams to me and is a decent deal, I have $600 to spend.
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You've gotten some great answers, but I'd say to the wrong questions. First ask yourself, even if you can't answer or if the answer is admittedly fluid:
What is your intent for this bike, to ride or to restore and admire and ride only occasionally? It make a different in what you'll "settle for" and how you equip it.
What kinds or cultures of bikes perk your interest? No point in building, say, a beach cruiser or an unusual nationality touring bike if they don't interest you.
Why are you doing this, because you enjoy the building process or because certain bikes speak to you emotionally?
Once you have a reasonable answer then you can start looking around. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand unless you are attracted to it for its own sake or a particular model you admired years ago, e.g. PX10, Grand Record, Paramount, Fuji Finest (Bestest?). Or maybe you just want something exotic and pretty and rare. You look around for the frame. The right one will speak to you, and then you'll lose the ebay auction and look around some more, maybe re-evaluate your goals. Eventually the right bike will show up on your doorstep.
What is your intent for this bike, to ride or to restore and admire and ride only occasionally? It make a different in what you'll "settle for" and how you equip it.
What kinds or cultures of bikes perk your interest? No point in building, say, a beach cruiser or an unusual nationality touring bike if they don't interest you.
Why are you doing this, because you enjoy the building process or because certain bikes speak to you emotionally?
Once you have a reasonable answer then you can start looking around. Don't limit yourself to a particular brand unless you are attracted to it for its own sake or a particular model you admired years ago, e.g. PX10, Grand Record, Paramount, Fuji Finest (Bestest?). Or maybe you just want something exotic and pretty and rare. You look around for the frame. The right one will speak to you, and then you'll lose the ebay auction
and look around some more, maybe re-evaluate your goals. Eventually the right bike will show up on your doorstep.Maybe something from these lists will speak to you:
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