StellaRossa

Im very new to this "poison" and i need some assistance if possible from anyone that has the knowledge and the time to help me out. I have tried myself for a week to make an identification of an above mentioned frame that is for sale on ebay. But i have failed in every attempt to do so. Not even Colnago themselves responds to any of the emails i have written the past few days. Bellow is the link to the pictures the seller provided and if anyone can confirm that it is or isn't the reall thing i would be eternally greatful. All apologies if any of my english spelling or grammar isn't what it should be, my excuse is that i'm swedish and for now better at english than bikes. That kind of sums it all.

Thank You in advance!

Telaio Colnago New Mexico Riverniciato | eBay

Oldpeddaller

How to identify a fake or genuine Colnago | saarf.net

The information near the bottom of the page on this lnk may be helpful to you.

miamijim

I'm up in the air on this one..

A mid-80's Colnago should have 2 external rear brake cable guides?

Sir_Name 

I'm not too sure either way. The BB shell looks like the real deal, but the webbing at the chainstays throws me (in addition to the seatstay caps). It's an obvious repaint with okay reproduction decals - compare fonts and what should be two gold stripes finishing off either end of the white decal panel, no white between the stripes. The curve/scallop to the world championship stripes on the downtube decal panel is also a bit 'sharp' rather than a single radius/uninterrupted curve. The RD cable stop was likely added before the repaint (should be a diver's helmet), same with TT internal cable routing. The fork crown looks off to me as well. The one thing I can say with relative certainty is that this is not an original Nuovo Mexico. The price feels steep to me, especially considering all of the modifications, regardless of quality of execution. All comments are related to the Nuovo Mexico model, not Colnagos in general. Also, I didn't translate/read the description, so I'm probably repeating or missing details.

Note: the BB shell webbing, seat stay caps, and fork crown (specifically the clover cutout) may be throwing me because this could be a bit 'newer' than the NM I'm comparing against ('83). Either way it looks quality - I'd lean towards real, but molestered. Considering the modifications to the frame I would consider it for a rider only, not a show piece (I wouldn't buy a bike for show only anyways, not that there's anything wrong with that...). I'd bet it rides very well. I'm not an 'expert' on the brand, just have a similar model and these are the things that jump out at me.

repechage

I think the above by Sir_Name is pretty good. I am not a student of later Colnagos and this looks the part, I think it left the factory as a Colnago but not what it presents now. So the value is what is it worth as a Bike with Colnago geometry? I also think the chrome has been clear coated and I bet that is not going to be durable. The campagnolo script on the chain stay is a detriment.

toytech

The seat lugs different from the 83 I had, mine had deeper crimping on the tubes and no cut out in the bb, and had 2 cable guides on the top tube. I don't know about later ones.

Last ride 76 

It's definitely made by/for Colnago. Whether it's a Nuovo Mexico, I don't know. Whether it's one or two Colnagos, I don't know that either. I know nothing about post-1983 frames (and am no expert on the earlier ones). Derailleur side drop out often has stamp that should match fork stamp. Seems like a LOT of money, unless that really is original paint etc. If it were original, not a lot. Best regards, Eric

repechage

It is a respray, the seller states that very clearly, riverniciato is the Italian word for refinish.

Last ride 76 

So that's what Rivercin, Rivernec, aw heck River-n i c i a t o means on replacement Columbus tubing decals. I am relatively new here, and am not an expert, nor even a collector, all I wanted to do was confirm that it was a Colnago, and seemed expensive (Imho)
Best regards, Eric