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12-28-14, 10:55 AM
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And now it's just one small step to understanding that someone with standards that differ from societal norms might actually view laws and fiscal appropriations that discriminate against active transport to be...um...discriminatory.
12-28-14, 10:57 AM
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12-28-14, 11:00 AM
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12-28-14, 11:02 AM
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i view riding a bike to be as trivial as walking. imo, there is absolutely nothing special about cycling for transport. nor is it remotely dangerous (on a relative basis) for the vast majority of people.
12-28-14, 11:45 AM
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People in Seattle are apparently not as tolerant as those in your area. Every time the local newspaper publishes an article or an editorial about new or proposed pedestrian/cyclist infrastructure , the comments section will be filled with negative comments calling us all sorts of names such as tax thieves, scofflaws and elitists. OTOH, an article about expanding freeways will be greeted with praises and woohoos. Kind of in line with what @spare_wheel said about intolerance towards minority behaviors.
You'll generally find the comments driven by an isolated, intolerant minority who find no other outlet for their unpopular views. They can say things on-line that would have them shunned from decent company, usually hiding behind pseudonyms so they don't risk outing themselves to the people they know in real life.
If you look at scientifically-conducted polls, or election results, Seattle's population is highly supportive of bicycle transportation. Indeed, that's one of the reasons the anti-cyclists have been driven to the news comments, they've failed to gain support out in the real world, and often claim that's the work of some vast liberal conspiracy.
12-28-14, 12:12 PM
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12-28-14, 12:35 PM
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So you acknowledge that I have standards? Bravo!
And now it's just one small step to understanding that someone with standards that differ from societal norms might actually view laws and fiscal appropriations that discriminate against active transport to be...um...discriminatory.
And now it's just one small step to understanding that someone with standards that differ from societal norms might actually view laws and fiscal appropriations that discriminate against active transport to be...um...discriminatory.
12-28-14, 01:02 PM
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I will find it very sad if cycling, which is considered a normal (and even preferred) means of transport in many other parts of the world, is viewed as "one of the counter culture affectations" in this country.
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12-28-14, 01:13 PM
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Pick any topic you want, and read the comments sections of the news sites.
You'll generally find the comments driven by an isolated, intolerant minority who find no other outlet for their unpopular views. They can say things on-line that would have them shunned from decent company, usually hiding behind pseudonyms so they don't risk outing themselves to the people they know in real life.
If you look at scientifically-conducted polls, or election results, Seattle's population is highly supportive of bicycle transportation. Indeed, that's one of the reasons the anti-cyclists have been driven to the news comments, they've failed to gain support out in the real world, and often claim that's the work of some vast liberal conspiracy.
You'll generally find the comments driven by an isolated, intolerant minority who find no other outlet for their unpopular views. They can say things on-line that would have them shunned from decent company, usually hiding behind pseudonyms so they don't risk outing themselves to the people they know in real life.
If you look at scientifically-conducted polls, or election results, Seattle's population is highly supportive of bicycle transportation. Indeed, that's one of the reasons the anti-cyclists have been driven to the news comments, they've failed to gain support out in the real world, and often claim that's the work of some vast liberal conspiracy.
Those who are selfishly unwilling to concede anything that doesn't provide them any direct benefit or gain, and those who selfishly seek to deny others anything they don't approve of share the common ground of intolerance for others, and feed off each other. On top of that they both set the impossible standard of if you're not with me you're against me, as if everything they don't like is being done to them personally.
Everybody deserves a voice, but that doesn't entitle anybody to shout down the rest.
12-28-14, 01:35 PM
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The problem is as a minority that doesn't represent the norm, we are unfortunately vulnerable to being represented by the negative behavior and attitudes of a few.
12-28-14, 01:39 PM
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Cycling is a counter culture affectation only of smug, obnoxious, self righteous, characters who have adopted bicycling as their own badge of Political Correctness, as well as proof of moral superiority over alleged fat, lazy and/or Politically Incorrect "Car Heads" whom they hold in contempt.
12-28-14, 02:14 PM
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12-28-14, 02:19 PM
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12-28-14, 03:28 PM
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Cycling is a counter culture affectation only of smug, obnoxious, self righteous, characters who have adopted bicycling as their own badge of Political Correctness, as well as proof of moral superiority over alleged fat, lazy and/or Politically Incorrect "Car Heads" whom they hold in contempt.
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12-28-14, 03:51 PM
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billions for a zombie tunnel (that was voted down twice) while active transport gets **** all.
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12-28-14, 08:01 PM
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and the space vacated by the viaduct will likely become a greenway and MUT.
12-28-14, 08:05 PM
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12-28-14, 08:58 PM
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Of course it is good to be a cyclist, if that is what the cyclist enjoys. Not so to be a self righteous silly fellow, even if also a cyclist, even if the cyclist is proud of being a silly fellow and intolerant towards those that don't fit his own profile.
12-29-14, 10:49 AM
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If you find silliness annoying then why on earth do you hang out here, ILTB?
12-29-14, 11:08 AM
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Not everyone who posts here is a silly fellow, sometimes there is intelligent commentary, though some posters can be counted on not to comprehend it, or the foolishness of their own emotional and often irrational ranting.
12-29-14, 10:58 PM
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The ILTB doth protest too much, methinks.
