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Old 05-08-15, 05:43 AM
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Sweet brakes, all. I do think Paul Motolites deserve a mention: such a clean and essential design.
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I think if I were starting from scratch and having a custom built, I'd likely want brazed on center pulls. I like the tire clearance and modulation of center pulls...shocking to me having never used one until a couple of years ago. I grew up thinking of center pulls as something that crappy old French bikes used.
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Old 05-08-15, 09:17 PM
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I hope that you can make out the brakes on my trike.
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^Left front, right rear. Looks straightforward from here. The Soncini on the previous page is fantastic. The brakes are cool, but the chainguard and fenders are out of sight.
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^ wild looking set-up on that trike. Any close-ups?

From what I've read, depicted below might have been made by Motobecane.

edit: I just found a listing on fleabay noting this brake is made by Jeay. Partly a center pull / roller cam cantilever type.


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Old 05-09-15, 12:46 PM
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Whoa. This thread's already an engineering marvel. More!
...and who will be the first to post some Campy Deltas? Is that what they were called?
my favorite photo of the deltas is one of that rigi without the covers, very skeletal looking.
think it belongs to someone called bianchigirl?
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knew I had it saved somewhere^
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Second and last Campy SR drillium caliper set:



Milled Campy SR caliper on my late 70s/early 80s Davidson:



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Too cool D. Dude.
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front brake: English made Radnall calliper
rear brake: British make Radnall calliper :-)
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Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake
I think if I were starting from scratch and having a custom built, I'd likely want brazed on center pulls. I like the tire clearance and modulation of center pulls...shocking to me having never used one until a couple of years ago. I grew up thinking of center pulls as something that crappy old French bikes used.
Yep! Here are are the model-G Dia Compes on my '77 Pro Tour.


There's also this plastic cantilever Saccon brake and matching lever that were on my weird Finnish city bike when I bought it, proving that Italian isn't always better. Now it sports the cheapest aluminum V-brake and lever I could find.

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Old 05-10-15, 06:06 AM
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Here are some unrestored Bowden Sport brake calipers from the 1930's. They apparently worked rather well for the time and compare favourably to modern side-pull brakes.



... and these are the original brake blocks in unused condition:



In 1938 the complete set would cost around 28 shillings; only the Gloria brakes were more expensive (Brown Brother's Cycle Catalogue):



These brakes will eventually adorn a 1939 Bates BAR.
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Originally Posted by Citoyen du Monde
I hope that you can make out the brakes on my trike.
Now that is a rather odd setup. I'm surprised that you didn't put the second brake caliper on the back side of the fork, to have less torque on the attachment bolt.

Why not put disc brakes on the rear, either mid-shaft, or at the wheels?
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Now that is a rather odd setup. I'm surprised that you didn't put the second brake caliper on the back side of the fork, to have less torque on the attachment bolt.

Why not put disc brakes on the rear, either mid-shaft, or at the wheels?
The attachment bolt for the side pull brake is greatly oversized when compared to a regular bike set up so there are no worries there. As far as installing something on the back, perhaps you might want to give some further thought to this idea. Each of the rear wheels in independent, so what you are suggesting would apply braking power to only one of the two wheels. Already in a standard bike the front brake exerts the preponderance of the braking effect because of the inability to fully apply maximum braking effect on a comparatively unweighted wheel, so you would now want to apply braking to only one of the even more heavily unweighted rear wheels... With a rear differential that would allow equal application of the braking over both rear wheels it might work, but otherwise I am more than happy to keep the existing set-up. You should also be aware that because you often have to hike way over in corners, you need to have similar braking action available from both brake levers (try to apply your right brake lever when leaning way outboard to the left and you might understand) and it is always preferable in such a case to be braing on the front wheel and not on the rear...
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Old 05-10-15, 12:32 PM
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I'm sorry about the fuzzy pictures. Something is wrong with the camera.

Control Tech?

Campy Euclid

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^that last pic reminds me of my off-road board. {A subject one shouldn't bring up among adults - LOL)






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I wouldn't exact;y call these exotic but more like seldom seen. 1970s Dura Ace center pulls. Roger
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Originally Posted by crank_addict
^that last pic reminds me of my off-road board. {A subject one shouldn't bring up among adults - LOL)

It's a gas powered scooter. You couldn't pay me enough to even try to ride it.
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I am a massive fan of the Magura hydraulic rim brakes, I'm still running a pieced together set with CNC Altek levers on my Pyscle Werks WildHare... however, before Magura hung on a bike, there was Mathauser. Specifically Mathauser's Hydraulic Brakes, I bought them new from the man himself when visiting my sister in the late 1980's. She and her husband both lived and worked in Redmond, WA, I borrowed my brother-in-law's Cannondale road bike and rode over to Mr. Mathauser's shop. I bought a set of hydraulic road rim brakes and a set of hydraulic mountain bike rim brakes. Here are a couple lousy photographs of the road brakes, I'm still looking for the pics of the mountain set but they were similar to the brakes pictured in the magazine ad. Even with fixed side and a single piston side, these were very powerful road brakes, they'd make for an ideal brake system on a road tandem. I ran the mountain set on my 1991 Stumpjumper Comp, that bike was all hydra'd out because I was also running SAFE hydraulic shift lines too... very trick set up in the early '90's! I'm waiting for the right '80's road build to resurrect this set.

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I am a massive fan of the Magura hydraulic rim brakes, I'm still running a pieced together set with CNC Altek levers on my Pyscle Werks WildHare... however, before Magura hung on a bike, there was Mathauser. Specifically Mathauser's Hydraulic Brakes, I bought them new from the man himself when visiting my sister in the late 1980's. She and her husband both lived and worked in Redmond, WA, I borrowed my brother-in-law's Cannondale road bike and rode over to Mr. Mathauser's shop. I bought a set of hydraulic road rim brakes and a set of hydraulic mountain bike rim brakes. Here are a couple lousy photographs of the road brakes, I'm still looking for the pics of the mountain set but they were similar to the brakes pictured in the magazine ad. Even with fixed side and a single piston side, these were very powerful road brakes, they'd make for an ideal brake system on a road tandem. I ran the mountain set on my 1991 Stumpjumper Comp, that bike was all hydra'd out because I was also running SAFE hydraulic shift lines too... very trick set up in the early '90's! I'm waiting for the right '80's road build to resurrect this set.

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Aww heck, you'all got some awesome brakes. I do so love my Force grippers. So I gotta share.
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*** MODS ***

Please delete this posting and post #47 , there was an issue with a photo and I fixed it, when the page reloaded it double posted.

I swear I didn't double post on purpose... it's not my fault... sorry.

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Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Second and last Campy SR drillium caliper set:



Milled Campy SR caliper on my late 70s/early 80s Davidson:



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I absolutely adore early weight weenie. (Or is it mid?) Beautiful example of the limitations of early design.
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