Show Your Vintage MTB Drop Bar Conversions
#4628
I've got an 86 MB-2 frame, thankfully not the moss green grey with red. I had it done up with moustache bars XO-3 style. Then it went to a mtb style with bullmoose bars. Thinking about drop bars now. I will have to find another donor bike for components.,,,,BD
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OK so I'm now a member of the drop bar 26er cult. I've been wanting to build one up for sometime. I have a 1984 Miyata street runner that would be perfect to do one with but its all original and so cool I just couldn't bring myself to make any changes to it for some stupid reason so I have been on the lookout for the right frame and or complete bike. I will say that just before I found this one I picked up a Ross frame for $10 but its just such a lesser quality made frame then this one I'm not going to go forward with it more then likely. I may throw a bunch of low end parts on it and sell it off for what ever I can get out of it but it wont be much, more then likely. I found this frame and fork from a local parts flipper when buying parts for the Ross, he had this and said $30 and its yours. I couldn't pay him fast enough. Hell I would have gave him $30 for the fork alone lol. Man was I a happy man when I got home and got this thing cleaned up. This is the first mock up. I'm trying to build it up with parts I have on hand but did order some new brakes for $58 delivered so for now I'm still under $100 on this thing as seen and the brakes or in route. I will post more photos as it progresses. The pedals are all I could find for now to try it out as far as fit.
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That large frame size looks like it will be perfect with the drop bar conversion.
Be sure to post your finished bike and report on how it rides.
That stem is as long as I would consider using on an MTB/Dropbar conversion, so hopefully the steering remains neutral while riding up out of the saddle using a (hopefully) wide enough bar.
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That reach looks pretty darn long!
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I have the same bike. I bought it earlier this year at a garage sale. I have been following this thread for a while, and even made an attempt to convert my Schwinn Sierra to drop bars, but I haven't been able to get it to feel right. I put a lot of miles on the Parabola over the summer and got to thinking that maybe I should just put gravel tires on it and call it good. It already has all the stuff that make a good conversion: bar end shifters, rack and fender mounts, and a stout steel frame with lots of clearance. The brakes aren't cantilevers, but they have lots of clearance and they work well. I have another hybrid that I can borrow the wheels from to test the concept without spending any money.
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I would sure want to test ride it with the 10cm on there to see how it handles, then consider the shorter stem. A 5cm decrease in stem length is huge in terms of how the steering will be affected.
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I spent a lot of the last two days cleaning and refreshing all the components for my MB2 build (the one I just got back from powdercoat). I'm using diacompe 986 cantis, and I had a mismatched set-- front was silver, rear was black. So, I used Strypeeze paint stripper to strip the black set, and then polished them up. Was even able to save the '986' decal. Cleaned and trued the mavic wheel set, cleaned the cassette, derailleurs, shifters, yadda yadda. Some of my tools are at a friend's shop; I just need to get my 5 and 6mm taps and tools to chase the BB clean, blow out all the media from the blasting, and then build it back up. I'll post some pics when I get it done. Hope it looks as good as yours. Thanks for posting it. Worthy of some better/detail pics when the weather breaks!
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Thanks for the kind words, simmonsgc.
I like the Kelly Take-Offs; good on you for spotting them! Here are a couple of detail shots from the summer when I had the WTB Dirtdrops/Specialized RM2s and Specialized Crossroads on (The WTB bars are for sale, BTW). The rear brakes are WTB cantis, circa 1992.
I have the full Bridgestone decal set. I'm still debating whether to put them (or some of them) on or not.
I like the Kelly Take-Offs; good on you for spotting them! Here are a couple of detail shots from the summer when I had the WTB Dirtdrops/Specialized RM2s and Specialized Crossroads on (The WTB bars are for sale, BTW). The rear brakes are WTB cantis, circa 1992.
I have the full Bridgestone decal set. I'm still debating whether to put them (or some of them) on or not.
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Really nice looking specialized, jstar.
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I have some questions for those that have converted a MTB to drop bars... I'm debating converting my Pugsley (not vintage, I know) to Woodchippers. I use the Pugsley for a wide range of riding conditions including: single-track (summer & winter), winter commuter, long touring rides (summer & winter), and have plans on some gravel centuries. I love the hand positions available on drop bars and the Woochippers would be great for style of riding I'd do with the Pugsley. My one concern is the shifters; it appears I can't get STI shifters to match my Pugsley derailleurs; therefore, I'd need to get bar-end shifters. I like the idea of bar end shifters for touring, but I'm concerned about ease of access on technical terrain. I am experienced with dropbars on a MTB - my primary bike is a Kona Dew Drop, which is basically a dropbar MTB. I ride this on summer single-tracks all the time and LOVE it. It has STI shifters, so I'm accustom to having brakes and shifters at my finger tips while on the hoods.
Please let me know if you ride single-track or technical trails with your dropbars and bar-end shifters, what are your thoughts and experiences. Thank you!
My other options is some old Scott AT-4 Pro bars, I have these on an old Rock Hopper out on loan to my brother-out-law (this is not my bike or photo, just for reference):
For reference, here's my beast:
Please let me know if you ride single-track or technical trails with your dropbars and bar-end shifters, what are your thoughts and experiences. Thank you!
My other options is some old Scott AT-4 Pro bars, I have these on an old Rock Hopper out on loan to my brother-out-law (this is not my bike or photo, just for reference):
For reference, here's my beast:
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Tell me more about these Kelly Take-Offs.... please. I'm very interested in this setup and your experience (see my earlier post about converting my Pugsley).
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Take-off's are great on a commuter. Especially if you're the type to ride with interrupter brakes. You can't really use them to shift from the drops (at least I haven't managed to figure out how), but from the tops, the hoods and other upright positions, they're super easy. If you're out somewhere and your RD gets banged, you just drop down into friction mode and keep on home until you get things figured out (with my 6 speed commuter, I never bothered and just kept on friction until I tore the bike down for other purposes).
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When shifting into a larger chainring/cog I go onto the drops and use my thumbs to operate the levers. When shifting into a smaller ring/cog, I wrap my thumbs around the brake hoods and use my two middle fingers. Either way you have lots of leverage (and control) and, with the Midge bars, it's easy to transition between the two positions. And, as I see it, an advantage the Take-Offs have over bar-ends is you always have both hands on the bars.
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Talking to my guy at the shop, he hand another suggestion, anybody tried the Dyna-Sys MTB Derailleurs? & thanks to everybody for putting up with my over-analyzing and asking tons of questions.
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I have some questions for those that have converted a MTB to drop bars... I'm debating converting my Pugsley (not vintage, I know) to Woodchippers. I use the Pugsley for a wide range of riding conditions including: single-track (summer & winter), winter commuter, long touring rides (summer & winter), and have plans on some gravel centuries. I love the hand positions available on drop bars and the Woochippers would be great for style of riding I'd do with the Pugsley. My one concern is the shifters; it appears I can't get STI shifters to match my Pugsley derailleurs; therefore, I'd need to get bar-end shifters. I like the idea of bar end shifters for touring, but I'm concerned about ease of access on technical terrain. I am experienced with dropbars on a MTB - my primary bike is a Kona Dew Drop, which is basically a dropbar MTB. I ride this on summer single-tracks all the time and LOVE it. It has STI shifters, so I'm accustom to having brakes and shifters at my finger tips while on the hoods.
Please let me know if you ride single-track or technical trails with your dropbars and bar-end shifters, what are your thoughts and experiences. Thank you!
My other options is some old Scott AT-4 Pro bars, I have these on an old Rock Hopper out on loan to my brother-out-law (this is not my bike or photo, just for reference):
For reference, here's my beast:
Please let me know if you ride single-track or technical trails with your dropbars and bar-end shifters, what are your thoughts and experiences. Thank you!
My other options is some old Scott AT-4 Pro bars, I have these on an old Rock Hopper out on loan to my brother-out-law (this is not my bike or photo, just for reference):
For reference, here's my beast:
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The old Scott bars... I laugh looking back at myself in the early 90s: Since it was my only bike, I'd ride my Rock Hopper for road rides and get down low on these bars with knobby tires buzzing away. I recall one ride, catching and holding pace with a group of roadies, they wanted to drop me but I was having too much fun annoying them with the hum from my MTB tires on the blacktop. I wish I had a heart monitor back then, I'm sure I was blowing it up. Silly young kid I was back then, now I'm just older.
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What shifters do you use with your 29'er? And do you use this bike for tight/technical riding? I think I found the shifters/brake combo for this project - Gevenalle - but I'm still interested in other options.
The old Scott bars... I laugh looking back at myself in the early 90s: Since it was my only bike, I'd ride my Rock Hopper for road rides and get down low on these bars with knobby tires buzzing away. I recall one ride, catching and holding pace with a group of roadies, they wanted to drop me but I was having too much fun annoying them with the hum from my MTB tires on the blacktop. I wish I had a heart monitor back then, I'm sure I was blowing it up. Silly young kid I was back then, now I'm just older.
The old Scott bars... I laugh looking back at myself in the early 90s: Since it was my only bike, I'd ride my Rock Hopper for road rides and get down low on these bars with knobby tires buzzing away. I recall one ride, catching and holding pace with a group of roadies, they wanted to drop me but I was having too much fun annoying them with the hum from my MTB tires on the blacktop. I wish I had a heart monitor back then, I'm sure I was blowing it up. Silly young kid I was back then, now I'm just older.
The 29er I have was a gift from a great friend, and it has Sora 9 speed STI brifters. And, Origin8 inline brake levers up on the flats. This is a fun bike to ride and a lot faster than I expected...
Yes, I have a similar story about chasing roadies with knobbies in the early 90s. Best day was a lunch ride, chased down a weight weenie roadie always bugged me to try lightweight stuff... Dude, I'm a Clyde at 6'3" and 235 at the time... A few grams saved weren't going to help me out any... He heard before he saw me, he took off... I had a touring bike triple instead of MTB triple, so I hammered with a 53T chainring and caught him. Passed him. And left him behind. Got back to work, and couldn't stand up... He showed a few minutes later and the rest of my group right behind him. Weight weenie never bugged me about weight saving stuff again. And I don't think I ever pushed that hard again. Miss that level of fitness these days...
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Thanks for the kind words, simmonsgc.
I like the Kelly Take-Offs; good on you for spotting them! Here are a couple of detail shots from the summer when I had the WTB Dirtdrops/Specialized RM2s and Specialized Crossroads on (The WTB bars are for sale, BTW). The rear brakes are WTB cantis, circa 1992.
I have the full Bridgestone decal set. I'm still debating whether to put them (or some of them) on or not.
I like the Kelly Take-Offs; good on you for spotting them! Here are a couple of detail shots from the summer when I had the WTB Dirtdrops/Specialized RM2s and Specialized Crossroads on (The WTB bars are for sale, BTW). The rear brakes are WTB cantis, circa 1992.
I have the full Bridgestone decal set. I'm still debating whether to put them (or some of them) on or not.
Hey Hypno Toad
When shifting into a larger chainring/cog I go onto the drops and use my thumbs to operate the levers. When shifting into a smaller ring/cog, I wrap my thumbs around the brake hoods and use my two middle fingers. Either way you have lots of leverage (and control) and, with the Midge bars, it's easy to transition between the two positions. And, as I see it, an advantage the Take-Offs have over bar-ends is you always have both hands on the bars.
When shifting into a larger chainring/cog I go onto the drops and use my thumbs to operate the levers. When shifting into a smaller ring/cog, I wrap my thumbs around the brake hoods and use my two middle fingers. Either way you have lots of leverage (and control) and, with the Midge bars, it's easy to transition between the two positions. And, as I see it, an advantage the Take-Offs have over bar-ends is you always have both hands on the bars.
Really cool build you put together! Some dirt drop conversions don't look like they'd be much fun to ride, however yours looks like it would be an absolute blast to hit the trails on... really great job on the build! Seeing you run a DKG Strong-Arm brake booster (my favorite hands down), allow me to suggest you keep your eyes out for another great DKG product, the Shift-Ease pod mounts. A few years back I built vintage Yeti inspired gravel grinder, I also ran the DKG Strong-Arm brake booster as well as the DKG Shift-Ease on my dirt drop conversion. The Shift-Ease pod mounts keep you hands on the brake hoods or the bar tops for shifting accessibility. Again, really smart build you put together, I'd love to hit the trails on it some weekend and I can't say about many dirt drop builds!
Thanks for sharing, please post any updates, cheers!
-D-
Here are a few photos from that build:
#4650
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[MENTION=381190]Hypno Toad[/MENTION]
Heres another option for the Puglsey, and you'd be able to use your existing shifters as well.
Gevenalle GX Shimano Dyna-Sys-Compatible Shifters - Shadow Plus
I have a surly troll with a salsa cowchipper bar and dura ace bar ends and xt shifters (9 speed). Its built more for touring and commuting rather than singletrack. Can't recommend the bar enough though, if you aren't dead set on the woodchipper. It makes the hoods as usable as the drops unlike the woodchipper, which would be useful for any serious offroading.
I'll have to post a few pictures, even though not necessarily vintage. I used the ergon high rise stem from ebay talked about previously in this thread and it worked out perfectly.
Heres another option for the Puglsey, and you'd be able to use your existing shifters as well.
Gevenalle GX Shimano Dyna-Sys-Compatible Shifters - Shadow Plus
I have a surly troll with a salsa cowchipper bar and dura ace bar ends and xt shifters (9 speed). Its built more for touring and commuting rather than singletrack. Can't recommend the bar enough though, if you aren't dead set on the woodchipper. It makes the hoods as usable as the drops unlike the woodchipper, which would be useful for any serious offroading.
I'll have to post a few pictures, even though not necessarily vintage. I used the ergon high rise stem from ebay talked about previously in this thread and it worked out perfectly.