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An ode to Kool Stop

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Old 01-15-16, 12:13 AM
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An ode to Kool Stop

I have mentioned them before, but I just put a new set on my CX bike. They are amazing. I spend tons on money on cycling gear that produces, at best, nearly imperceptible gains. Ultegra drivetrain might shift better than the Tiagra. Lighter wheels might be faster. New tires might corner better. But the Kool Stops? They stop. Night and day.

I have all alu breaking surfaces, so YMMV, but wow. I really do regret spending $100 to upgrade to fancier (and heavier) Ultegra brakes. I rode my new CX bike through some disasters today, and I am pretty sure that that new disc-ready frame is no longer in my immediate future.

And all this from a company whose website and packaging was frozen in time in 1998.
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Agreed! They also make a good replacement pad for the old orange Weinmann's, which I put on my Raleigh. I also use Kool Stops on the tandem.

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For the last couple of years they are the only thing I have used on my touring bike with cantis. Just had a new set put on this week. The Mountain Salmons, I believe. I like to incorporate dirt roads into my tours. The pads work well and hold up great even on mountainous, dirt roads in the rain.
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Agreed, KoolStops are one of the best "bang for the buck" upgrades you can make to a bike.
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I am looking at getting some Kool Stops ...

I see that there are a few different types of Kool Stop. Which are the best for wet conditions? (aluminium wheel rims)
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I am looking at getting some Kool Stops ...

I see that there are a few different types of Kool Stop. Which are the best for wet conditions? (aluminium wheel rims)
Salmon are the ones that people rave about. There are only two brake pads people pretty well universally rave about - KoolStop Salmon for alloy rims, and SwisStop Black Prince for carbon.
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Originally Posted by kc0bbq
Salmon are the ones that people rave about. There are only two brake pads people pretty well universally rave about - KoolStop Salmon for alloy rims, and SwisStop Black Prince for carbon.
thank you!
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Kool Stop Salmon are my go to brake pad. I just bought some new alloy wheels and will pair them up with a set of salmon pads. Its usually the first thing I change on a new bike.
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I run blacks on alu rims, no rain here and they are great as well
as black prince on CF.
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Swisstop BXP RacePro/Flashpros have been working well for me. What would equivalent Koolstop be -- the salmons?
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Kool Stops

love 'em. Though Shimano's latest are a lot better than they once were.
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Salmons are a little aggressive on one of my bikes with very light, less expensive wheels. The fronts shuddered and wore down very quickly no matter how I adjusted them. The dual compound pads have a little better feel and don't wear as fast, still stop on a dime. My road bike with good Mavic wheels have the full salmon pads.
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I am another Kool Stop fan, and just bought a set of salmon pads for Old Peugeot #2 . They offer a noticeable improvement when the rims are wet, which is nine months out of the year in the NorthWet.
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the dual compound ones, black and salmon for dry and wet, are fantastic

so are the triple compound (black, gray, and salmon) though I don't know what the gray is for!
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All I will use.

Dual compounds for my wife, blacks for me (they work great!)...
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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Salmons are a little aggressive on one of my bikes with very light, less expensive wheels. The fronts shuddered and wore down very quickly no matter how I adjusted them. The dual compound pads have a little better feel and don't wear as fast, still stop on a dime. My road bike with good Mavic wheels have the full salmon pads.
Cantilever brakes?
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I ride with Shimano 5700 brake calipers. Do these work with them? Kool-Stop Salmon Road Brake Pads
Where do you guys in the US usually order them from online?
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
Cantilever brakes?

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Originally Posted by TimothyH
Odd.
I would not expect shuddering from a Shimano road brake.
I have Kool Stop salmons with Ultegra brakes on one bike, and I can do hard braking coming down a 14% grade with a rider+bike weight a little over 200# with no shuddering at all.
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Originally Posted by Shimagnolo
Odd.
I would not expect shuddering from a Shimano road brake.
I have Kool Stop salmons with Ultegra brakes on one bike, and I can do hard braking coming down a 14% grade with a rider+bike weight a little over 200# with no shuddering at all.
As I said, my road bike with Mavic Ksyrium wheels has full salmon pads on 105 brakes circa 2002. My experience with this bike is the same as yours - no issues with shuddering ever.

The other bike is pictured below. Only the front shudders and I'm not sure the steel fork doesn't have something to do with it. The wheels are also radial lacing in the front with thin gauges spokes, aluminum nipples and Joytech hubs - 700 grams for the front wheel and not what you would call stiff by any means. Full salmon pads are just a bit aggressive but the dual compound pads are smooth as glass and stop on a dime.


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Old 01-18-16, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dtrain
love 'em. Though Shimano's latest are a lot better than they once were.
I switched on older Shimano's and noticed a big improvement. My newest Shimano brakes with Shimano pads stop every bit as good as Kool Stops though.
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Originally Posted by dcsix
They also make a good replacement pad for the old orange Weinmann's
Wow! I haven't even thought about old orange Weinmann brake pads in probably 40 years! What a blast from the past!
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