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Old 07-17-16, 11:13 PM
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think I'm flexible enough to drop the handlebar some more? I'm thinking 1 cm. stem's already slammed with a -17x120mm, but if I replace the super tlal cannondale dust cover, I can maybe drop it another 1.5-2 cm
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Old 07-17-16, 11:21 PM
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Back seems flat enough to me already.
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but I want to look PRO!!!
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Old 07-18-16, 12:20 AM
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Or a steeper stem. I have a -35 I use for TTs. Last year I left it on for a month or 2. Kinda liked it actually but went back. Now I have a smaller frame so it's naturally a tad lower but back with a normal stem. I could probably use a slightly lower stem
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Old 07-18-16, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by spectastic
but I want to look PRO!!!
bend your elbows

flat forearms are way more aero. lower the bars and you're just going to reach more and hurt your cda. you'll be slower.
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Old 07-18-16, 10:33 AM
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bend your elbows

flat forearms are way more aero. lower the bars and you're just going to reach more and hurt your cda. you'll be slower.
Not to mention a more closed hip angle could hurt power output. I just went through this exercise replacing a fork I cut with the stem slammed. New fork with a few spacers, body in same position with 90* elbow bends.
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i should go lower when I'm sprinting.
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Originally Posted by spectastic
i should go lower when I'm sprinting.
Your first position shot looks fine, from the "how's it look" dyno point of view. If you sacrifice ergonomics for position that wouldn't be good. If you feel like experimenting see if you can get a deeper drop or longer reach bar, put it on and try it on a trainer, let your current bars just dangle. You'll get a good idea of what's possible or not. I'm guessing you can get 1-2 cm more reach/drop by trying different bars. I'm thinking it wouldn't be worth it to do it now, maybe in the off season.

For sprinting I'm not sure but I've been thinking about how I sprint recently. I never got low on purpose but now I'm thinking that bringing my hips down a bit might be good to give me a better platform for the downstroke, have more of a "leg press" motion than I do now. I haven't really tried it but that's one thought I've had. Related to your question it would involve you bringing your hips down, therefore torso, therefore bend arms more. There's this sensation of being able to press on the pedals longer for each pedal stroke. Bonus of being a bit lower. You're tall enough that it might make more of a difference aerodynamically, I resemble a rounder Caleb when I sprint, I don't have much lowering available to me.
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camera adds like 30lbs.
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Yeah. You rode past me near registration and eclipsed the sun.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
Your first position shot looks fine, from the "how's it look" dyno point of view. If you sacrifice ergonomics for position that wouldn't be good. If you feel like experimenting see if you can get a deeper drop or longer reach bar, put it on and try it on a trainer, let your current bars just dangle. You'll get a good idea of what's possible or not. I'm guessing you can get 1-2 cm more reach/drop by trying different bars. I'm thinking it wouldn't be worth it to do it now, maybe in the off season.

For sprinting I'm not sure but I've been thinking about how I sprint recently. I never got low on purpose but now I'm thinking that bringing my hips down a bit might be good to give me a better platform for the downstroke, have more of a "leg press" motion than I do now. I haven't really tried it but that's one thought I've had. Related to your question it would involve you bringing your hips down, therefore torso, therefore bend arms more. There's this sensation of being able to press on the pedals longer for each pedal stroke. Bonus of being a bit lower. You're tall enough that it might make more of a difference aerodynamically, I resemble a rounder Caleb when I sprint, I don't have much lowering available to me.
I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with flexibility too. I was thinking of picking up yoga (sessions are cheap at the university). In my mind, the position of torso only matters if my back muscles are limited, provided the hips remain in a similar position to put power down. However, the legs are the limiting components, so being flexible enough to keep the hips up and shoulders down will probably be good
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Old 07-25-16, 12:29 PM
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from the lake bluff round of intelligentsia. i'm about 30th wheel and there's an entire straightaway of guys strung out behind me. huge field, great course. photo by a teammate.

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Old 07-25-16, 02:08 PM
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from the lake bluff round of intelligentsia. i'm about 30th wheel and there's an entire straightaway of guys strung out behind me. huge field, great course. photo by a teammate.
This is probably a good example of a race that doesn't lend itself to tailgunning.
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Old 07-26-16, 06:52 PM
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camera adds like 30lbs.
still... thigh gap, though! some would be jealous.
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That's me on the front, winning the intermediate sprint in Saturday's circuit race.
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Two to go on Thursday's crit. Calm before the storm.
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still... thigh gap, though! some would be jealous.
Not sure it counts when it's created by the lycra. Ugh, god. The way the end of the bibs cut into my leg.

I'm motivated. 187 currently.
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Different kind of suffering. Must have worked, I finished for the first time in three races.

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Different kind of suffering. Must have worked, I finished for the first time in three races.

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What's going on and why are there 28 pins?
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What's going on and why are there 28 pins?
I was feeding my dad, which can take 60-90 minutes. When he's actually chewing I can't really leave. At the same time I needed to pin my Tues Night Worlds number as we usually get to the course with zero time for warm up. They were all new pins, scattered ones from promoting, they get everywhere, and Junior likes to put them "where they belong" which is in a little container that I deemed "the place where pins belong". Whenever Junior finds a pin he puts it in the bin. Said bin happened to be within reach of my seat at the table. I used most of them.
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
This is probably a good example of a race that doesn't lend itself to tailgunning.
hah, probably not. but the whole backside of the course was tight turns and you could make up a lot of time with fast cornering. on the flip side, the front side was a long false flat drag that just sapped your legs.
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Old 07-27-16, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by canuckbelle
Two to go on Thursday's crit. Calm before the storm.
Am I correct that they ran the 1/2/3 and 3/4 fields together but scored separately?
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Am I correct that they ran the 1/2/3 and 3/4 fields together but scored separately?
For every race, correct. There were a tonne of 3s and 4s. Most races had 3-5 2s. I don't think there were any 1s. So it was hard for me to get upgrade points this week. Also, the RR was 10mi too short to count as a RR for a 2-to-1 upgrade.
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Supreme suffering at 10,000ft during the Crusher in the Tushar. If you get the chance to do this race - do it!









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