Mini Pump: Lezyne the Best?
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I have been pleased with my Lezyne. The holder goes on under the bottle cage, so I didn't have to sacrifice a bottle cage. I have the on that is rated for 120 psi I think, and I can get it to about 100, but it's not that easy, and once, like someone else said, I had a removable core tube that came out twice in a row on me. That was a good frustrating workout.
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I also have three!
For those unscrewing their valve cores, the supplied hose has a fitting at each end, one of which is a slip, or press on head rather than a screw on.
Lezyne also offer a replacement, braided hose which can also accept threaded CO2 cartridges as well, so you can have both a top performing manual pump and CO2 convenience without needing more than a cartridge.
I would not recommend a fixed head press-on pump at all, both because they force you into limited, uncomfortable positions to operate, and because they can result in valve/tube damage if you don't employ proper technique to prevent it (which gets back to the limited/uncomfortable thing). A pump with a flex hose as the Lezyne have afford freedom to pump in a more comfortable way, without fear of putting pressure on the valve stem.
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I just purchased a Topeak Pocket Rocket. I have not used it on the road, but when changing a tube at home, I used it to refill the tire. it got to 50 psi right away and that was enough for me to know it will do the job. Its rated to 160psi but I would expect getting to 100 would take quite some time. I purchased it to replace CO2 after the guts of my co2 valve mysteriously blew out to places unknown when removing a spent cartridge. The pump conveniently mounts next to the water bottle cage or would fit in a pocket.
The ideal set up for inflating tires on the road (in my opinion) is both a mini pump and CO2. The mini pump is useful for reinflating the punctured tube to find the hole (useful to know where the hole is to be sure you check the correct part of the tire for the offending debris that caused the hole) and for putting some initial pressure in the tube/tire to make sure tube is not bunched up in the tire, tire is seating on the bead, etc. CO2 can then be used to bring you up to the 100psi or so pressure you would normally ride at.
The ideal set up for inflating tires on the road (in my opinion) is both a mini pump and CO2. The mini pump is useful for reinflating the punctured tube to find the hole (useful to know where the hole is to be sure you check the correct part of the tire for the offending debris that caused the hole) and for putting some initial pressure in the tube/tire to make sure tube is not bunched up in the tire, tire is seating on the bead, etc. CO2 can then be used to bring you up to the 100psi or so pressure you would normally ride at.
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I've used the road morph g for a few years, then went to the lezyne road drive. They are both good quality.
There is an adapter mount for the road morph that lets you use it with a bottle cage. The lezyne should come with an adapter? Or you can buy one of the lezyne bottle cages with integral pump holder.
There is an adapter mount for the road morph that lets you use it with a bottle cage. The lezyne should come with an adapter? Or you can buy one of the lezyne bottle cages with integral pump holder.
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It's not that big, it's not that heavy and it allows you to use body weight and push against the ground, instead of relying on one hand securing and one hand pumping - that seems like good design, not overkill.
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I have always been a proponent of co2 until I switched to tubeless tires and ended up stranded on the side of the road after the front wheel lost it's bead and I tried to use one co2 to reset it, didn't work, so needed the second to inflate the tube...then lost the bead in the second wheel and no way to inflate the second tube.
This was 100% my fault. I should have tested the wheels closer to home or carried more co2 for my test trip. Still, ever since then, I started carrying the Topeak Pocket Rocket pump I purchased for bikepacking and I have to say, I'm kind of content not dealing with the co2. The Pocket Rocket does a pretty good job at getting air in the tires quickly...plus, it's about the only upper arm workout I get. Ha!
This was 100% my fault. I should have tested the wheels closer to home or carried more co2 for my test trip. Still, ever since then, I started carrying the Topeak Pocket Rocket pump I purchased for bikepacking and I have to say, I'm kind of content not dealing with the co2. The Pocket Rocket does a pretty good job at getting air in the tires quickly...plus, it's about the only upper arm workout I get. Ha!
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For the most part, you should be able to set a bead with co2...when you're working with non tubeless rims though, things get a bit more difficult. At the end of the day, the faulty component was the orange seal tape allowing air to leak out around the valve. The problem has now been fixed, and I'm sure I could do just fine carrying co2, hell, the wheels ahve barely leaked air in three months now, I could probably get by without carrying anything, but still, I like to go out prepared.
What I'm saying is...I got used to carrying just two tubes and a pump as I continued to test the wheels. I used to carry two co2s and a tube...quite frankly, I think the second tube is lighter than the co2 cartridges and the pump is small enough to fit in my jersey pocket without notice.
I was always a huge "never carry a pump, co2 is all you need" type of guy, but I'm finding the pump to be just about as fast as co2 without the hassle of co2.
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I know this.
For the most part, you should be able to set a bead with co2...when you're working with non tubeless rims though, things get a bit more difficult. At the end of the day, the faulty component was the orange seal tape allowing air to leak out around the valve. The problem has now been fixed, and I'm sure I could do just fine carrying co2, hell, the wheels ahve barely leaked air in three months now, I could probably get by without carrying anything, but still, I like to go out prepared.
What I'm saying is...I got used to carrying just two tubes and a pump as I continued to test the wheels. I used to carry two co2s and a tube...quite frankly, I think the second tube is lighter than the co2 cartridges and the pump is small enough to fit in my jersey pocket without notice.
I was always a huge "never carry a pump, co2 is all you need" type of guy, but I'm finding the pump to be just about as fast as co2 without the hassle of co2.
For the most part, you should be able to set a bead with co2...when you're working with non tubeless rims though, things get a bit more difficult. At the end of the day, the faulty component was the orange seal tape allowing air to leak out around the valve. The problem has now been fixed, and I'm sure I could do just fine carrying co2, hell, the wheels ahve barely leaked air in three months now, I could probably get by without carrying anything, but still, I like to go out prepared.
What I'm saying is...I got used to carrying just two tubes and a pump as I continued to test the wheels. I used to carry two co2s and a tube...quite frankly, I think the second tube is lighter than the co2 cartridges and the pump is small enough to fit in my jersey pocket without notice.
I was always a huge "never carry a pump, co2 is all you need" type of guy, but I'm finding the pump to be just about as fast as co2 without the hassle of co2.
I'm still at a loss to understand what a hassle CO2 is compared to trying to pump up a tire with a tiny pump with a couple hundred pump strokes. But if you think a pump is less hassle, the Lezyne's are a top choice.
J
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Seating the bead in a tubeless configuration is and always was a losing proposition with CO2. Simply not enough volume. It's a waste of time to try it. Use a tube instead for emergencies.
I'm still at a loss to understand what a hassle CO2 is compared to trying to pump up a tire with a tiny pump with a couple hundred pump strokes. But if you think a pump is less hassle, the Lezyne's are a top choice.
J
I'm still at a loss to understand what a hassle CO2 is compared to trying to pump up a tire with a tiny pump with a couple hundred pump strokes. But if you think a pump is less hassle, the Lezyne's are a top choice.
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The advantage to a pump is that you never run out of air. CO2 carts are quicker, of course, and when you've got a group waiting that's nice.
I have two Road Drives and another model that has presta & schrader fittings and I am pretty sure that they are all of them are screw-on. Perhaps they revised the hose at some point?
I have two Road Drives and another model that has presta & schrader fittings and I am pretty sure that they are all of them are screw-on. Perhaps they revised the hose at some point?
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Like I said, I was a huge proponent of co2, but it only takes me about a minute to get a wheel aired up to a rideable psi with the Pocket Rocket. It's really not the end of the world for me.
My current enve/tubeless setup has been shelved until my new Cannondale arrives in November. In the meantime I'm riding the stock wheels/tires that came on my Mr. Pink. The 28mm Clements wouldn't be my first option for a tire, but I'm going to try to get some wear out of them while I'm bike poor from buying two new bikes. So far I've had one flat and I missed the co2 a little since it was Friday afternoon and I wanted to get home from work, but the extra minute didn't really bother me that much.
*shrug*
I'm certainly not trying to sway anyone to pumps, just saying, I was quite anti pumps for a number of years because the quality was never there, but it seems they've made quite a few advances in recent years.
My current enve/tubeless setup has been shelved until my new Cannondale arrives in November. In the meantime I'm riding the stock wheels/tires that came on my Mr. Pink. The 28mm Clements wouldn't be my first option for a tire, but I'm going to try to get some wear out of them while I'm bike poor from buying two new bikes. So far I've had one flat and I missed the co2 a little since it was Friday afternoon and I wanted to get home from work, but the extra minute didn't really bother me that much.
*shrug*
I'm certainly not trying to sway anyone to pumps, just saying, I was quite anti pumps for a number of years because the quality was never there, but it seems they've made quite a few advances in recent years.
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Yes, they have. I gave up on my old mini-pump (don't remember the brand) because it was near about impossible to get more than about 50 psi into a tube without total arm fatigue. I went to CO2, but that had too many problems (including operator error, I'll admit). The newer portable mini pumps and frame pumps let you get up to pressure pretty quickly and without too much aggravation.
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I have a couple of 27.2 "Post Pumps" that I've been experimenting with, and have some for sale $40 (send me a PM). Two different styles (removable vs one piece hose).
But, truthfully, for around town, I just throw a pump in my pack. The one I've been using lately is the Specialized Air Tool (Mini/MTB).
New Specialized Airtool MTB Hand Pump Bronze | eBay
What I like about that one is that it has a little storage compartment in the handle. Very handy for one's patch kit and a few odds and ends. Mine came without the cap, and the tube from a mini LED light will screw fairly securely into the end for a slightly larger handle compartment. The MTB version is apparently rated for 90 PSI which is good enough for most of my riding.
Unfortunately, I don't seem to be a trend-setter, and by the time I decide I like something, they seem to be discontinued.
But, truthfully, for around town, I just throw a pump in my pack. The one I've been using lately is the Specialized Air Tool (Mini/MTB).
New Specialized Airtool MTB Hand Pump Bronze | eBay
What I like about that one is that it has a little storage compartment in the handle. Very handy for one's patch kit and a few odds and ends. Mine came without the cap, and the tube from a mini LED light will screw fairly securely into the end for a slightly larger handle compartment. The MTB version is apparently rated for 90 PSI which is good enough for most of my riding.
Unfortunately, I don't seem to be a trend-setter, and by the time I decide I like something, they seem to be discontinued.
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The advantage to a pump is that you never run out of air. CO2 carts are quicker, of course, and when you've got a group waiting that's nice.
I have two Road Drives and another model that has presta & schrader fittings and I am pretty sure that they are all of them are screw-on. Perhaps they revised the hose at some point?
I have two Road Drives and another model that has presta & schrader fittings and I am pretty sure that they are all of them are screw-on. Perhaps they revised the hose at some point?
In '14 I purchased a Pen Guage hose to replace a stock ABS hose. At the end opposite the gauge, there is a head which can be unscrewed and flipped over to fit either schraeder or presta (screw on).
It's possible that pre-'12, the hose did not have a slip fit end; I don't know. It's also possible we're talking different pump models, and that they're equipped differently.
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Well I'll be damned, you're right and I'm dead wrong.
The hose on one of my Road Drive pumps has 'Presta' on one end and nothing on the other; the other pump says 'Presta' and 'Slip'! And indeed, I managed to get both to wiggle onto a Presta valve -- stunning! Does that mean from here on out I'll need to RTFM? Nah...
Thanks .
The hose on one of my Road Drive pumps has 'Presta' on one end and nothing on the other; the other pump says 'Presta' and 'Slip'! And indeed, I managed to get both to wiggle onto a Presta valve -- stunning! Does that mean from here on out I'll need to RTFM? Nah...
Thanks .
Dunno...I got the first of my three, a Carbon Road Drive, in late '12, and it has the same "ABS Flex Hose" clearly marked "presta" on one end and "slip" on the other, as do the other two hoses which came with the two alu-bodied Road Drives I own. The "slip" end does, in fact, slip on presta valve stems.
In '14 I purchased a Pen Guage hose to replace a stock ABS hose. At the end opposite the gauge, there is a head which can be unscrewed and flipped over to fit either schraeder or presta (screw on).
It's possible that pre-'12, the hose did not have a slip fit end; I don't know. It's also possible we're talking different pump models, and that they're equipped differently.
In '14 I purchased a Pen Guage hose to replace a stock ABS hose. At the end opposite the gauge, there is a head which can be unscrewed and flipped over to fit either schraeder or presta (screw on).
It's possible that pre-'12, the hose did not have a slip fit end; I don't know. It's also possible we're talking different pump models, and that they're equipped differently.
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Well I'll be damned, you're right and I'm dead wrong.
The hose on one of my Road Drive pumps has 'Presta' on one end and nothing on the other; the other pump says 'Presta' and 'Slip'! And indeed, I managed to get both to wiggle onto a Presta valve -- stunning! Does that mean from here on out I'll need to RTFM? Nah...
Thanks .
The hose on one of my Road Drive pumps has 'Presta' on one end and nothing on the other; the other pump says 'Presta' and 'Slip'! And indeed, I managed to get both to wiggle onto a Presta valve -- stunning! Does that mean from here on out I'll need to RTFM? Nah...
Thanks .
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Should I be looking for a High Volume or a High Pressure pump?
I'm riding a GF Mamba mountain bike with Bontrager H2 26x1.50 tires but planning to move to a road bike in the future. Moving to a true road bike has been delayed a while because of using my savings for a trailer hitch and hitch rack.
Haven't even thought about a tire pressure gauge...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice!
TripleB67
I'm riding a GF Mamba mountain bike with Bontrager H2 26x1.50 tires but planning to move to a road bike in the future. Moving to a true road bike has been delayed a while because of using my savings for a trailer hitch and hitch rack.
Haven't even thought about a tire pressure gauge...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice!
TripleB67
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Should I be looking for a High Volume or a High Pressure pump?
I'm riding a GF Mamba mountain bike with Bontrager H2 26x1.50 tires but planning to move to a road bike in the future. Moving to a true road bike has been delayed a while because of using my savings for a trailer hitch and hitch rack.
Haven't even thought about a tire pressure gauge...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice!
TripleB67
I'm riding a GF Mamba mountain bike with Bontrager H2 26x1.50 tires but planning to move to a road bike in the future. Moving to a true road bike has been delayed a while because of using my savings for a trailer hitch and hitch rack.
Haven't even thought about a tire pressure gauge...any recommendations?
Thanks for your advice!
TripleB67
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Looking to get a very small bike pump to carry in my saddle bag or water bottle storage container (don't want to attach the pump to the frame).
Does Lezyne make the best mini pump for the price?
Looking at the small version of this one (which is only 6.5"): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005X772QK...ing=UTF8&psc=1
I know many prefer CO2 but just starting out in the sport of cycling I'd prefer to go as simplistic as possible.
Also: is there a mini tool kit (that contains most of what tools I'd need on the road) that you would recommend that's good quality but relatively inexpensive?
Thanks!
TripleB67
Does Lezyne make the best mini pump for the price?
Looking at the small version of this one (which is only 6.5"): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005X772QK...ing=UTF8&psc=1
I know many prefer CO2 but just starting out in the sport of cycling I'd prefer to go as simplistic as possible.
Also: is there a mini tool kit (that contains most of what tools I'd need on the road) that you would recommend that's good quality but relatively inexpensive?
Thanks!
TripleB67
If you're planning to put it on the bottle cage, may as well get medium to make life slightly easier.
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I have the high pressure and would recommend going that way. The micro floor pump has a gauge on some models. Not great but work very well in a pinch. For at home, I love the Topeak digital tire pressure gauge. Seems to work well and works on Shraider and Presta valves
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I'm waiting for the Digital Road Drive, not available yet.
Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - Hand Pumps - High Pressure - Digital Road Drive
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Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - Hand Pumps - High Pressure - Digital Road Drive
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I'm waiting for the Digital Road Drive, not available yet.
Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - Hand Pumps - High Pressure - Digital Road Drive
Saw this on Bikerumor and immediately wanted one.
Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - Hand Pumps - High Pressure - Digital Road Drive
Saw this on Bikerumor and immediately wanted one.
It's not the slickest integrated design, but I'll wait to see the finished product. I'll probably buy one anyway to try it out and to replace the hefty Biologic seatpost pump on my Dahon.
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