27 inch tire options in 2016?
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27 inch tire options in 2016?
I have a Miyata 610 and a Fuji Espree that both need new tires. They both have 27 inch alloy wheels.
There isnt as many tire options as their used to be. Both bikes are in great condition. Id love to upgrade the wheelset to 700c on both but thats likely not going to happen.
Id like to replace the tires on both bikes. Panaracer TourGuards is what i was hoping for but even those are hard to come by at a reasonable price these days. Maybe gatorskins?
Id love to find something durable. I dont have time for flats and something with low rolling resistance if possible.
Anyone have any recommendations for 27 inch tires. Are their any good ones left this day and age?
Will standard 700c fenders clear a 27 inch tire? I am thinking of picking up some sks fenders for the Miyata.
There isnt as many tire options as their used to be. Both bikes are in great condition. Id love to upgrade the wheelset to 700c on both but thats likely not going to happen.
Id like to replace the tires on both bikes. Panaracer TourGuards is what i was hoping for but even those are hard to come by at a reasonable price these days. Maybe gatorskins?
Id love to find something durable. I dont have time for flats and something with low rolling resistance if possible.
Anyone have any recommendations for 27 inch tires. Are their any good ones left this day and age?
Will standard 700c fenders clear a 27 inch tire? I am thinking of picking up some sks fenders for the Miyata.
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A quick Google search on "panaracer pasela 27" tires" came up with pages of results. Check Niagara Cycle Works for starters, also Bike Tires Direct.
Michelin has a tan sidewall tire that looks period correct and sells for a decent price.
My experience with Gataorskins is they are hard riding tires. Continental tends to make a lot of their tires with a narrower amount of thread than the Peselas which leaves the sidewalls more exposed. The Gatorskins have reinforced casings to protect the sidewalls which make the sidewalls less flexible... Just my opinion!
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Michelin has a tan sidewall tire that looks period correct and sells for a decent price.
My experience with Gataorskins is they are hard riding tires. Continental tends to make a lot of their tires with a narrower amount of thread than the Peselas which leaves the sidewalls more exposed. The Gatorskins have reinforced casings to protect the sidewalls which make the sidewalls less flexible... Just my opinion!
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I like both the tires below, Vittorio Zaffiro and Serfas Seca that can be bought at REI. The Serfas Seca has low rolling resistance.
https://www.rei.com/c/bike-tires-tubes-and-wheels?r=category%3Acycling%7Cbike-components%7Cbike-tires-tubes-and-wheels%3Bwheel-size%3A27%20inches&ir=category%3Abike-tires-tubes-and-wheels
https://www.rei.com/c/bike-tires-tubes-and-wheels?r=category%3Acycling%7Cbike-components%7Cbike-tires-tubes-and-wheels%3Bwheel-size%3A27%20inches&ir=category%3Abike-tires-tubes-and-wheels
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I bought Panaracer Pasela PTs for my U08 a few months back and am very pleased with them. They have seen daily commuting on rough streets with no issues and they look great. I purchased then from Outside Outfitters for under $30 each on a sale.
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If you want cheap don't forget the Kenda/Duro line - They can be had even in Canada for $12 ea and are durable if not particularly nice feeling tires - I actually don't mind them too much (and I have Paselas on a couple of bikes and the Continentals on one).
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I bought a pair Panaracers Pasela PT (the new name for Tour Guard) in 27x1-1/4 from REI last spring for $16ea on sale. I have the same tires in 27x1-1/8 on my Viva Sport that I got from Niagara Cycle. My Fuji has the wheels and tires that came off the Viva Sport - Araya 27x1 wheels and Bontrager T1 city/touring tires in 27x1-1/8. I used to run Vittoria Zaffiro 1-1/8 on that bike.
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I have Paselas, Pasela TG/PT (I think one set of TourGuard and two sets of PT), and a set of the Loose Screws Sand Canyon tires.
I'm much into the "wider is better" camp- just from going from 27 x 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 within Paselas. The Sand Canyon tires are 1 3/8" and are really nice tires. I'm just getting to the point of riding them at much lower pressure.
I don't know how long Loose Screws is going to carry these tires, so I'm going to pick up a few sets pretty soon before they fully transfer into gun parts.
I'm much into the "wider is better" camp- just from going from 27 x 1 1/8 to 1 1/4 within Paselas. The Sand Canyon tires are 1 3/8" and are really nice tires. I'm just getting to the point of riding them at much lower pressure.
I don't know how long Loose Screws is going to carry these tires, so I'm going to pick up a few sets pretty soon before they fully transfer into gun parts.
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So durable, low rolling resistance, and for a 'reasonable' price?
$30 per tire all over for Panaracer's 27x 1 1/4 seems quite reasonable. $60 and you will have a couple thousand miles of riding fun.
$30 per tire all over for Panaracer's 27x 1 1/4 seems quite reasonable. $60 and you will have a couple thousand miles of riding fun.
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Regular Paselas are 27 (dollars I mean, but inches too ;-) on amazon https://www.amazon.com/Panaracer-Pas...acer+pasela+27
I've heard they ride nicer than the PTs but haven't tried them myself.
I've been using the Sand Canyons lately that The Golden Boy mentioned, and like them too.
I've heard they ride nicer than the PTs but haven't tried them myself.
I've been using the Sand Canyons lately that The Golden Boy mentioned, and like them too.
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Stay away from Continental Tour Ride. Wretched things indeed.
Panaracers are the go-to if you want skinwall, as many have suggested. Low cost and a good ride.
I just ordered some Michelin Protek for my commuter, but can't report on them yet.
Panaracers are the go-to if you want skinwall, as many have suggested. Low cost and a good ride.
I just ordered some Michelin Protek for my commuter, but can't report on them yet.
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I am trying a couple pair of 'Nashbar Prima 2 Plus'. 27x1-1/4. $14.99, but catch a sale and they are around $11-12. Unfortunately they are black-wall, but ride nicely and seem well made. Have not had them long enough to see how they wear.
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I plan on getting a set of Panaracer PT for my Motobecane I'm putting together. My understanding of the paselas is this:
Pasela - no flat protection
Pasela PT - flat protection ONLY under tread pattern
Pasela Tourguard - flat protection entire tire.
Pasela - no flat protection
Pasela PT - flat protection ONLY under tread pattern
Pasela Tourguard - flat protection entire tire.
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PT (Protection Technology) is just the renamed TourGuard.
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See link. They don't even look the same. Different color, different tread pattern.
https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/urban_touring.html
https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/urban_touring.html
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Huh. I've run both and never noticed any difference in appearance. Must be subtle...
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The older 27" Paselas had a different tread pattern with a solid rib down the center. I bought some 27 x 1-1/8 and 27 x 1-1/4 Pasela TG's a few years back and they had the same tread pattern that standard and TG Paselas used for years. Even the 26" versions had that pattern!
I've seen a number of other tire companies that have copied the Pasela thread pattern so that says something about the look!
the Pasela PTs that I saw at a LBS has the same tread pattern too!
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I have had plenty of both sizes and haven't noticed a difference. Is this new?
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If cost and durability were my primary concern, I'd go with Kenda K36 (27 x 1 1/8") or K35 (27 x 1 1/4") clinchers - easily found on ebay for $14-18 per tire. If I wanted something more performance oriented, I'd go with Panaracer regular Paselas.
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I see Cougrrcj mentioned some Bontrager tires. Does anyone else here have experience using 27 inch Bontrager's? I'd used (and really liked) their rubber on my mountain bikes over the years.
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I've bought four pairs of Pasela 27". Haven't yet paid over $20 a tire.
Work fine on my 610, great for all sorts of surfaces from pavement to limestone to cobblestone to sand. Can't say I have tons of experience with other tires, but I have zero complaints.
They look good ont eh bike:
And they can handle things like this no problem:
Work fine on my 610, great for all sorts of surfaces from pavement to limestone to cobblestone to sand. Can't say I have tons of experience with other tires, but I have zero complaints.
They look good ont eh bike:
And they can handle things like this no problem:
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Copy/pasted from the Niagara Cycle website of 27x1-14 Pasela -- red emphasis added:
Product Description
Pasela is the standard all around touring or urban commuting tire. Its comprehensive size range insures that you can find a Pasela for most any usage. Ride it and trust it.
I have never bought Paselas in any other size than 27" so I don't have first hand experience -- I was just going by what I saw on the Niagara site!
Product Description
- 90 psi
- Steel bead
- 360 WT
- 66 TPI
Pasela is the standard all around touring or urban commuting tire. Its comprehensive size range insures that you can find a Pasela for most any usage. Ride it and trust it.
- 27" has different tread pattern than other 700c Pasela tires
- 400D Lite Extra Cord technology increases side-cut resistance while improving the rigidity during cornering
I have never bought Paselas in any other size than 27" so I don't have first hand experience -- I was just going by what I saw on the Niagara site!
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See link. They don't even look the same. Different color, different tread pattern.
https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/urban_touring.html
https://www.panaracer.com/lineup/urban_touring.html
I think you are confusing different models.
Are you maybe looking at this?
That is the Tour Guard, not a Pasela, which is a completely different tire than the Pasela TG (Tour Guard). It's not even available as a 27" tire so not even in consideration. The Pasela TG however was a 27" gumwall tire, but hasn't been produced under that name in some time. They changed the name to Pasela PT (Protection Technology) and also as I recall the description changed from saying it had a kevlar belt to some other non-descript puncture resistant belt. And apparently they recently changed it again, now calling in the Pasela Protite, stating "It incorporates our newest puncture technology, ProTite. ProTite is 24% strong than previous puncture materials and advanced technology for puncture protection." Still very generic and not actually stating what this material is or what "advanced technology" is.
Pasela
Pasela PT
Well OK not EXACTLY the same, the labels are different color, if those pics accurately depict the production product.
[MENTION=244722]Cougrrcj[/MENTION] that description from Niagara is years old and not valid. Some retailers do not do a very good job of keeping those kind of things accurate and up to date.
This was the difference back when the 27's and 700's had a different look:
But all references I can find to that style was like 2010 and older...
Lets stop propagating years old info that is no longer correct
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