Quality time with my home built time machine
01-06-17, 03:24 PM
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Your GAN is more blingy than mine...and I do like the chrome! I really want a Telekom at some point (my favorite of the Merckx schemes).
I'm going to try and get this built up after tax season.
I'm going to try and get this built up after tax season.
01-06-17, 03:26 PM
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Sorry I do not speak Shimano. I am fluent in Campagnolo and after a couple of beers I get by in Mavic too. I wish I had paid more attention thru the Superb Pro lessons at school but I skipped Shimano class all together. 
But I am catching up. To my knowledge, after some reseach when buying this bike, this is 1991 Dura Ace.
But I am catching up. To my knowledge, after some reseach when buying this bike, this is 1991 Dura Ace.
Its Dura-Ace 7400 which started in 1984. It was the first indexed generation. In 1990 they introduced integrated "brifters" into the line up. I dont think much changed until 7700 came out in '96
01-06-17, 03:36 PM
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What makes me believe my Dura Ace is from around 1991 and original to the frame is that it is 8 speed and has dual pivot brakes as - from what I know came in 90-91? Mine does not have the brifters but that was up to the customer to chose or not.
01-07-17, 08:38 AM
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What a fun way to post this, and what a beautiful specimen! (Although personally I have to say that midnight blue one is a knockout.)
I do hope you ride them occasionally. It would be a shame to have them exclusively as wall hangers, however perfect.
I do hope you ride them occasionally. It would be a shame to have them exclusively as wall hangers, however perfect.
01-07-17, 10:40 AM
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01-07-17, 11:18 AM
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Your bike is just perfect. Can't believe a top end racing bike looks like it's never been ridden. I hope you really get to enjoy breaking it in. Even the nonmatching aero seatpost and front wheel belong.
01-07-17, 11:27 AM
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I think you got it right the first time. Obviously you have perfected time travel.
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01-07-17, 02:02 PM
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01-07-17, 02:09 PM
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01-07-17, 02:17 PM
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Mine is first generation Super Record 11. In 2010 SR 11 did not have the red accents that came later. Bought it slightly used and had to get a thingy that I do not know the English word for (or the Swedish) for the rear derailleur to get it to work with a 29 rear cog (which I need badly sometimes).
01-07-17, 06:50 PM
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Mine is first generation Super Record 11. In 2010 SR 11 did not have the red accents that came later. Bought it slightly used and had to get a thingy that I do not know the English word for (or the Swedish) for the rear derailleur to get it to work with a 29 rear cog (which I need badly sometimes).
The rest is 10 speed Chorus.
Slick set up. Works like a charm.
SR11 is a fantastic groupset. Campy at its finest. imho
Again, love your classy bikes.
01-08-17, 02:39 PM
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Absolutely beautiful time machine! Now bring it in out of all that snow & swaddle it in a wool blanket until the warm Spring sun appears. Don
01-08-17, 03:29 PM
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Thanks! I have no idea - I bought it off ebay as a bare frame some years ago. But a photo finish/number hanger could be ordered by anyone at the time - have a look at that second catalog scan on page one of this thread. The green/black/white with a dash of red MXL on the same page also has a hanger but I would say it means nothing unless there is a proven provenance coming with a bike/frame. Personally I like when a frame has one. It makes me faster... Not as fast as chrome head lugs but close.
Provenance isn't worth as much as you'd think in my experience, but it sure is cool regardless.
03-09-17, 02:55 PM
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Bought some parts to "correct" the Merckx Corsa Extra MAX.
As I now for - the first time, road bike wise, am taking the plunge into uncharted (for me) Shimano territory I might as well go all in. Got the right and period correct stem and seatpost for the Merckx.
Sellers pics:
As I now for - the first time, road bike wise, am taking the plunge into uncharted (for me) Shimano territory I might as well go all in. Got the right and period correct stem and seatpost for the Merckx.
Sellers pics:
03-09-17, 06:52 PM
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The tubes are ovalized at the ends, run and get that empty papertowel tube!! Now squish one end vertically and the other horizontally, that's kind of how they look. The top tube is ovalized vertically at the head the goes to round in the middle and the ovalizing turns horizontal at the seat lug. Same with the DT ovalized vertically at the HT and horizontally, somewhat more pronounced at the BB shell. The seattube is of course round at the top but ovalized at the BB shell.
Combined with those massive chainstays it puts a lot of lateral stiffness in the frame to transfer more power into the drive train but it is still compliant vertically for a comfy ride. My apartment is all topsy-turvy right now so I can't get the weights but for all that massive look a MAX tubeset is not much heavier than SL and comes in just under SLX.
For a larger rider
they really are great frames. OH there was also as seldom see, not the Bluegrass group, Mini MAX which IIRC was EL OS given a similar ovalizing treatment.
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03-09-17, 06:57 PM
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[QUOTE=styggno1;19295365]I have been working on my time machine for quite a while now and at last it seems like I have got it up and running. I set the timespan to 1991-92 and decided to have a go at it.
Landed in Belgium and went straight to Heerenweg 11, Meise and sneaked in to the show room.
Then everything blurred and I woke up in Sweden again. Three hours of daylight (dark daylight) and -20 Celsius. I felt really strange and confused as I came to. Still have no feeling in my left hand.
The nice thing though is that I got the bike with me thru time travel. The frame is perfect and most of the parts also. Strangely the front wheel and seatpost got mixed up in the time-transformation-equation and has to be corrected.
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That is beautiful. I sometimes wish my Bianchis had lugs. It was always hard to decide if this fork or the one with the crown was better.
Landed in Belgium and went straight to Heerenweg 11, Meise and sneaked in to the show room.
Then everything blurred and I woke up in Sweden again. Three hours of daylight (dark daylight) and -20 Celsius. I felt really strange and confused as I came to. Still have no feeling in my left hand.
The nice thing though is that I got the bike with me thru time travel. The frame is perfect and most of the parts also. Strangely the front wheel and seatpost got mixed up in the time-transformation-equation and has to be corrected.
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That is beautiful. I sometimes wish my Bianchis had lugs. It was always hard to decide if this fork or the one with the crown was better.
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03-09-17, 07:04 PM
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Incase anyone wants to see the cleaner lugless construction
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03-09-17, 07:16 PM
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I don't think that is a lug as much as it is a reinforcing sleeve with the seat binder ears mounted on it. It doesn't have a socket for the TT.
And besides I needed an excuse to show off one of my MAX bikes
And besides I needed an excuse to show off one of my MAX bikes
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03-10-17, 09:32 AM
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No excuse is ever needed to show a frame in MAX tubing. Feel free whenever in my posts.
Personally I am torn between lugs and no lugs when it comes to MAX. Your Proto and my Caurus Proto have the smooth fillet brazed look (even if it is TIG welded and then made smooth with bondo or whatever) and I love it. What I do not like is TIG welded MAX with the welds showing - which some Protos and Caurus have.
Regardless of lug or no lug - the seat tube/top tube joint is the weak point (aesthetically) of them both. Bulky/ugly with the lug and undefined/blobby without.
When it comes to Merckx:s MX Leaders - I do believe his more traditional fork crown has the upper hand (again aesthetically) over the more generic MAX crown.
Being torn - I have worked around the "problem". I have got the lugged Merckx Corsa Extra MAX, a smooth Bianchi Caurus Proto and then some Merckx MXL: s. Problem solved... ;-)
Personally I am torn between lugs and no lugs when it comes to MAX. Your Proto and my Caurus Proto have the smooth fillet brazed look (even if it is TIG welded and then made smooth with bondo or whatever) and I love it. What I do not like is TIG welded MAX with the welds showing - which some Protos and Caurus have.
Regardless of lug or no lug - the seat tube/top tube joint is the weak point (aesthetically) of them both. Bulky/ugly with the lug and undefined/blobby without.
When it comes to Merckx:s MX Leaders - I do believe his more traditional fork crown has the upper hand (again aesthetically) over the more generic MAX crown.
Being torn - I have worked around the "problem". I have got the lugged Merckx Corsa Extra MAX, a smooth Bianchi Caurus Proto and then some Merckx MXL: s. Problem solved... ;-)
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