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Old 02-22-17, 09:51 AM
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My lbs put my fixed gear lockring on with loctite. Does it still need to be tightened? Will tightening it break the loctite?

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Your lbs sucks.

Did they use red or blue Loctite?
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Old 02-22-17, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Your lbs sucks.

Did they use red or blue Loctite?
*secretly hoping for the red* What he said.
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Next time tell them to put on the lockring with grease and tighten it down to proper spec and make sure to check it every so often. If you are using the pavement as your undies and skidding, you will want to check it even more often.
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Old 02-22-17, 10:54 AM
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Hi, not sure if it's blue or red. Looks like they applied it to the threads, so I can't see it. What is the difference between red and blue? My bike has front and rear brakes that I use to stop, guessing the lockring still needs to be checked sporadically? Is the loctite a pain to get off the threads after breaking it?

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Old 02-22-17, 10:59 AM
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Ask the "mechanic", not a forum.

Blue Loctite can be broken using moderate force. Red Loctite is pretty much permanent. Good luck.
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Blue is "temporary" and red is "permanent."
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Is it a true track hub (with a smaller-diameter left-thread lockring) or a road hub? If it's a road hub, the lockring is right threaded and using loctite makes sense.
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Loctite on a lockring? I've never heard of that before. Now, I don't skid and never have. But I still don't know why you would need Loctitie. Backing off the cog tightens the lockring. Unless things are so loose to start with that you are stressing and damaging the threads, I see no need. (And that's what chainwhips and lockring spanners are for; tools every shop has.)

Ben - a guy who's been riding these fixie things for 40 years and the miles of (4) laps around the plane

Edit: Trakhak - good point

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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla
Ask the "mechanic", not a forum.

Blue Loctite can be broken using moderate force. Red Loctite is pretty much permanent. Good luck.
Sounds like there are better mechanics here on the forum than at his LBS.
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Is it a true track hub (with a smaller-diameter left-thread lockring) or a road hub? If it's a road hub, the lockring is right threaded and using loctite makes sense.
Its a track hub. Sounds like overkill.

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Back when I got the Kilo, I needed to gear down from the stock 48t ring to a 44t ring. Wouldn't you know it, the bastard came with the Locktite on the chainring bolts. Had to drill 'em.
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FWIW red and blue Loctite both loose their strength around 100C. If it does not come apart with reasonable force, heat it up with a heat gun until spit sizzles and try it then. It should come right off.

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Originally Posted by bmwjoe
FWIW red and blue Loctite both loose their strength around 100C. If it does not come apart with reasonable force, heat it up with a heat gun until spit sizzles and try it then. It should come right off.

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100C ?... say, what's the flash point of hub grease?
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Or plastic cartridge bearing seals?
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100C is boiling water. I hope I am not putting myself in danger adding olive oil to my pasta water.

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Originally Posted by jeremylc
100c ?... Say, what's the flash point of hub grease?
> 100c
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
100C is boiling water. I hope I am not putting myself in danger adding olive oil to my pasta water.

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No danger, just wasting perfectly good olive oil in boiling water. Oil in pasta water really doesn't do much. If you keep your water at a boil and stir your pasta with some regularity you shouldn't get sticking. Generally it is the people who turn down the heat or don't stir that will get sticky pasta. Also good quality pasta can help out and it will taste better when properly prepared.
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The Loctite Red 271 product page says it requires 260°C or about 500°F.
Henkel (manufacturer of Loctite) has a blog post which says 550°F.
Either way, pretty much permanent for a bike. The LBS obviously doesn't do many fixed gear bikes.

I'd bring the bike back to the LBS and politely ask them to remove the lockring. If it turns out to be Red 271 then I'd politely ask them to replace my wheel and take it from there.


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Old 02-23-17, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney
100C is boiling water. I hope I am not putting myself in danger adding olive oil to my pasta water.

Ben
You shouldn't do this. Slick noodles don't hold sauce as well. Starch in the water is your friend. In fact, at work I harvest starch off the pasta tank to add to the sauce as a thickener. Just make sure you stir the noodles from time to time to keep them from sticking.
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Jesus ****ing Christ, we're debating oil on noodles now.
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Salt in the pasta water is more important than oil.
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I use salt, and nothing else. Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Singlespeed & Fixed Gear > how to boil pasta properly
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Originally Posted by franswa
Salt in the pasta water is more important than oil.
Make it taste like the sea!

I made a steak and past last night. Oil is for cooking the steak and then for pouring onto the finished pasta for extra awesome flavor.
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