Another confused Peugeot owner
03-23-17, 10:02 PM
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Another confused Peugeot owner
I have what I believe to be a 1978 peugeot uo-8 and was under the assumption that the bottom bracket was french threaded and purchased a new french threaded bottom bracket from velo orange. When I went install the new BB I was surprised to find that the drive side is left hand threaded as apposed to the right hand threads of 70s era peugeots.
My question is what are my options? Is this bike actually swiss threaded? All of my research indicated that this wasn't the case. Help!
My question is what are my options? Is this bike actually swiss threaded? All of my research indicated that this wasn't the case. Help!
03-23-17, 10:21 PM
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Does your new French bottom bracket thread into the non-drive side? If so, you've got 35x1 threading and the left-hand threads on the drive side would mean you've got a Swiss bottom bracket shell.
If you have a Swiss bottom bracket shell, finding cups may be difficult. You may want to consider the Velo Orange threadless bottom bracket if you need a new bottom bracket.
If you have a Swiss bottom bracket shell, finding cups may be difficult. You may want to consider the Velo Orange threadless bottom bracket if you need a new bottom bracket.
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03-24-17, 05:59 AM
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Yes most likely a Swiss threaded BB on that bike.
I thought I've seen Swiss threaded BB's being sold by VO through retailers on the internet. They should also still be available (Swiss threaded cups with their universal BB cartridges) from Phil Wood, but some may question buying a quite expensive Phil Wood BB for a bike like a UO8.....
I thought I've seen Swiss threaded BB's being sold by VO through retailers on the internet. They should also still be available (Swiss threaded cups with their universal BB cartridges) from Phil Wood, but some may question buying a quite expensive Phil Wood BB for a bike like a UO8.....
03-24-17, 09:09 AM
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Without actually looking at the bike I will suggest that this bike might be English threaded. Peugeot started to transition to English standards in the later 1970s. I know of many Motobrokens having Swiss shells but never a Peugeot, yet. Andy
03-24-17, 09:12 AM
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Motrobrokens, Wronglys, Pigouts, Shwines, Fudgies, Trucks, Crankandfails. Have you got any funny brand names too? Andy
03-24-17, 10:44 AM
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My 1980 PKN-10 was definitely Swiss-threaded. When I swapped in a Sugino triple, I needed a different wall thickness on the fixed cup, so I force-threaded an aluminum Sugino fixed cup. I don't dare ever remove it, but the kluge has held up for more than 10 years now.
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03-24-17, 10:52 AM
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Andy, my UO-8 was a "Puggit". (Quite French, 1967.)
On topic: my ~1990 Reynolds 501 Peugeot had an English threaded BB. Granted a decade later.
Ben
On topic: my ~1990 Reynolds 501 Peugeot had an English threaded BB. Granted a decade later.
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03-24-17, 03:14 PM
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Although they did have quite a few bikes already with British threading, much earlier......
03-24-17, 04:04 PM
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Never assume anything with Peugeot Bikes
NEVER ASSUME anything with Peugeot bikes my 74 all French, my 85 some modern surprises (after trying to remove pedals for a week), then my 86 with the dang helicomatic freewheel with its special tools for everything. So, in my experience I try to just use all original, new old stock parts.
03-24-17, 04:20 PM
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KVW, I'm thinking, if you really need a new Swiss drive-side (fixed) cup and you can't find one, you could put a non-DS French cup with lock ring there. You could position it by putting the non-DS cup in approximately the right place, then fit the spindle and DS cup and locking it in place, then adjust the non-DS as needed. Non-DS French cups are available readily enough.
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03-24-17, 05:18 PM
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KVW, I'm thinking, if you really need a new Swiss drive-side (fixed) cup and you can't find one, you could put a non-DS French cup with lock ring there. You could position it by putting the non-DS cup in approximately the right place, then fit the spindle and DS cup and locking it in place, then adjust the non-DS as needed. Non-DS French cups are available readily enough.
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03-24-17, 06:36 PM
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Why use that kludge when you can get a set of Swiss cups for $23 +$8 shipping from Russia?
35x1 Bottom Bracket Swiss Thread Lagerschalen Cuvettes Suiss
35x1 Bottom Bracket Swiss Thread Lagerschalen Cuvettes Suiss
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03-24-17, 07:05 PM
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NEVER ASSUME anything with Peugeot bikes my 74 all French, my 85 some modern surprises (after trying to remove pedals for a week), then my 86 with the dang helicomatic freewheel with its special tools for everything. So, in my experience I try to just use all original, new old stock parts.
03-24-17, 08:51 PM
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KVW, I'm thinking, if you really need a new Swiss drive-side (fixed) cup and you can't find one, you could put a non-DS French cup with lock ring there. You could position it by putting the non-DS cup in approximately the right place, then fit the spindle and DS cup and locking it in place, then adjust the non-DS as needed. Non-DS French cups are available readily enough.
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Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
"Far and away the best prize that life offers is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." --Theodore Roosevelt
Capo: 1959 Modell Campagnolo, S/N 40324; 1960 Sieger (2), S/N 42624, 42597
Carlton: 1962 Franco Suisse, S/N K7911
Peugeot: 1970 UO-8, S/N 0010468
Bianchi: 1982 Campione d'Italia, S/N 1.M9914
Schwinn: 1988 Project KOM-10, S/N F804069
03-24-17, 09:17 PM
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03-24-17, 09:57 PM
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Does your new French bottom bracket thread into the non-drive side? If so, you've got 35x1 threading and the left-hand threads on the drive side would mean you've got a Swiss bottom bracket shell.
If you have a Swiss bottom bracket shell, finding cups may be difficult. You may want to consider the Velo Orange threadless bottom bracket if you need a new bottom bracket.
If you have a Swiss bottom bracket shell, finding cups may be difficult. You may want to consider the Velo Orange threadless bottom bracket if you need a new bottom bracket.
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03-24-17, 10:10 PM
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Yes, Sunlite does sell threadless bottom brackets. But those have a beveled flange like the long-discontinued Mavic threadless bottom brackets, and that bevel leads me to believe that proper prep for installing the bottom bracket would be to chamfer the bottom bracket shell faces. The Velo Orange threadless bottom bracket doesn't require any frame prep/modification.
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03-24-17, 10:10 PM
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I like the suggestion earlier for the Peugeot to try the adjustable cup side and verify its threading, if the adj. side is French, then you have Swiss.
03-24-17, 10:36 PM
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Thank you all for the insight. I checked the threads on the drive side and the shell is indeed Swiss. It appears my best bet would be order the Swiss cups from Russia or the more expensive Velo orange Threadless bottom bracket. Does anyone have experience with the sunlight threadless BB? They are much cheaper but I am concerned with the quality.
03-25-17, 05:19 AM
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Clearly I wasn't thinking clearly. (I can blame the Irish red ale.) Of course it works only with BB's that have RH threads on the DS.
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