Campy Hubs with Red Oil Port Clips?
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Campy Hubs with Red Oil Port Clips?
Has anyone seen this before? I've got a set of Campy hubs that have red clips/covers on the oil ports.
Does that indicate anything in particular? Just a random variation? Somebody got bored and painted the clips?
Does that indicate anything in particular? Just a random variation? Somebody got bored and painted the clips?
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Clearly designed for a red bike to help it go a bit faster.
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I'm guessing someone painted 'em. Mix-mash of skewers too.
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Rules say you have to paint your fingernails same color if you do that.
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I always wondered why the clips were not chrome plated.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
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While at first glance pair looks to be a NOS set of Record road hubs upon closer inspection it becomes clear they are not a matched set.
Rear is late enough to have gear block threads marked. It has CPSC nut for skewer. It has late type cam housing where lever is held by circlip rather than nut.
Front has pre-CPSC skewer nut and old style cam housing. Lever is held by incorrect 5 x .8 hex nut in a false acorn pattern rather the true acorn which would have been original.
If one enlarges photo a bit the brush strokes can be seen where oil hole clips have been hand painted.
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While at first glance pair looks to be a NOS set of Record road hubs upon closer inspection it becomes clear they are not a matched set.
Rear is late enough to have gear block threads marked. It has CPSC nut for skewer. It has late type cam housing where lever is held by circlip rather than nut.
Front has pre-CPSC skewer nut and old style cam housing. Lever is held by incorrect 5 x .8 hex nut in a false acorn pattern rather the true acorn which would have been original.
If one enlarges photo a bit the brush strokes can be seen where oil hole clips have been hand painted.
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The clips originally had a black oxide finish which offered very limited rust protection. BITD rust was a common issue and many people painted them, though black was far more common.
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I always wondered why the clips were not chrome plated.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
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While at first glance pair looks to be a NOS set of Record road hubs upon closer inspection it becomes clear they are not a matched set.
Rear is late enough to have gear block threads marked. It has CPSC nut for skewer. It has late type cam housing where lever is held by circlip rather than nut.
Front has pre-CPSC skewer nut and old style cam housing. Lever is held by incorrect 5 x .8 hex nut in a false acorn pattern rather the true acorn which would have been original.
If one enlarges photo a bit the brush strokes can be seen where oil hole clips have been hand painted.
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While at first glance pair looks to be a NOS set of Record road hubs upon closer inspection it becomes clear they are not a matched set.
Rear is late enough to have gear block threads marked. It has CPSC nut for skewer. It has late type cam housing where lever is held by circlip rather than nut.
Front has pre-CPSC skewer nut and old style cam housing. Lever is held by incorrect 5 x .8 hex nut in a false acorn pattern rather the true acorn which would have been original.
If one enlarges photo a bit the brush strokes can be seen where oil hole clips have been hand painted.
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I did notice the brush strokes after my initial post here, but I didn't realize that painting them was a common thing. I'd have thought I'd at least have seen a few with other colors.
Thanks for the detailed analysis!
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This is almost irrelevant but my Raleigh Pro came to me with Suntour seal bearing hubs - just a sticker on each hub. Just for fun I removed the two stickers and made a pair of "oil hole clips" from some brass stock I have. Used the cover pattern from the Campy clips. So mine are a different color and useless but it's something different. I like them.
They are not spring steel but they do have enough spring to stay in place. Been in place now for a couple of years.
They are not spring steel but they do have enough spring to stay in place. Been in place now for a couple of years.
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would'nt wish to see anyone attempt this with a needle bearing...
however, a roller bearing would certainly be a natural.
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would'nt wish to see anyone attempt this with a needle bearing...
however, a roller bearing would certainly be a natural.
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YES! That's the stuff. Howjaknow? Actually I don't see what 'bearing' the basket ball has (nyuck, nyuck, nyuck)
Say, I heard that those Campy hubs don't even have a oil port. No hole in the hub. True? If none then I agree, the black clips are just advertising. Good idea too.
Say, I heard that those Campy hubs don't even have a oil port. No hole in the hub. True? If none then I agree, the black clips are just advertising. Good idea too.
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While sorting through the stuff in my garage I found a set of wheels that I thought had Campy hubs but they actually turned out to be Gipiemme. Photo courtesy of VeloBase:
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Shimano also used black clips in the 105, 600 groups.
Dura ace used silver clips.
Dura ace used silver clips.
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I always wondered why the clips were not chrome plated.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
If you look at old Cycling newspapers, there is the answer, in even grainy newsprint photo reproduction one can easily tell who is on Campagnolo hubs in the pro peloton. Even riders who otherwise we're not using Campagnolo.
During the three year 1967 through 1969 period many professional pilots of frankish iron were seen to be rolling on hubs with dark oil hole clips. These were first generation Normandy Luxe Competition.
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In later years came the MICHE Competition set, for example -
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They are not chrome plated for the simple reason that it would be problematic to do so.
These are spring steel clips, and need to flex quite a bit to be installed over the hub shell. Chrome is too brittle, and would likely flake off if flexed that much.
In any case keeping them rust free is very simple, a bit of an oil or wax film applied now and then and problem solved.
These are spring steel clips, and need to flex quite a bit to be installed over the hub shell. Chrome is too brittle, and would likely flake off if flexed that much.
In any case keeping them rust free is very simple, a bit of an oil or wax film applied now and then and problem solved.
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