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04-22-18, 09:38 PM
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Oh, you want pix, you say?
The full monty.
Ignore the bulge, focus on the decal. Velocals made a custom set for me.
Badges. Yeah we need some stinking badges. @rhm had these made for me. Shapeways.com will take your art, 3D print it in wax, then use the lost wax process to cast in the metal of your choice, brass in this instance.
The seat stays and original dropouts came out, I got these verticals from Mitch Pryor, and new seat stays from framebuilder.com. Internal wiring is for a seat stay mounted tail light.
Internal wiring from the front.
Some extra bits for fenders, pump pegs, and cantilevers
The full monty.
Ignore the bulge, focus on the decal. Velocals made a custom set for me.
Badges. Yeah we need some stinking badges. @rhm had these made for me. Shapeways.com will take your art, 3D print it in wax, then use the lost wax process to cast in the metal of your choice, brass in this instance.
The seat stays and original dropouts came out, I got these verticals from Mitch Pryor, and new seat stays from framebuilder.com. Internal wiring is for a seat stay mounted tail light.
Internal wiring from the front.
Some extra bits for fenders, pump pegs, and cantilevers
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04-22-18, 09:54 PM
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Beautiful frame! Lovely color and modern updates. We all look forward to seeing it on its wheels again!
04-22-18, 10:09 PM
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04-22-18, 10:16 PM
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[MENTION=381793]gugie[/MENTION], You should just saw the hanger off it and turn it into a fixie like I did.
04-23-18, 08:25 AM
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Glad to see that the bike will be built up and get some use. It's too pretty to just sit around and get dusty.
Love the brass Reynolds "decals"! Very clever! Plus, they solve the issue of the original decals cracking and flaking off with the slightest provocation.
Also love the "Grander Sportier" top tube decals! Not only is it very truthful, but adds one more variation to the Gran Sport/Grand Sport(s) designation that occurred over the years.
That should confuse at least a few Raleigh enthusiasts.
Steve in Peoria
Love the brass Reynolds "decals"! Very clever! Plus, they solve the issue of the original decals cracking and flaking off with the slightest provocation.
Also love the "Grander Sportier" top tube decals! Not only is it very truthful, but adds one more variation to the Gran Sport/Grand Sport(s) designation that occurred over the years.
That should confuse at least a few Raleigh enthusiasts.Steve in Peoria
04-23-18, 08:50 AM
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Bulge or not... she looks great. Was half-wondering if a (determined!) mechanic could ream the head tube until it came loose from the brazed areas, then braze a new HT into place. Or remove fork, heat I/D of the HT w/ blowtorch, & quench with water/oil from a spray bottle to temper the bulged area? 🤔
04-23-18, 09:01 AM
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I think it would be easier to sawzall through the head tube, then torch it and slip off both lugs. At that point the TT bulge could be rolled out. Braze in a new HT and it's all better... Easy for me to say. 
It's obvious a whole lot of work went into that bike. It's worth the full save IMO, though maybe not right now.
It's obvious a whole lot of work went into that bike. It's worth the full save IMO, though maybe not right now.
04-23-18, 09:05 AM
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Bulge or not... she looks great. Was half-wondering if a (determined!) mechanic could ream the head tube until it came loose from the brazed areas, then braze a new HT into place. Or remove fork, heat I/D of the HT w/ blowtorch, & quench with water/oil from a spray bottle to temper the bulged area? 🤔
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04-23-18, 09:20 AM
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I'd ride it as is, as well. Not a safety issue, imo. And from an aesthetic POV it's pretty unnoticeable, too. I'd build it up and ride it.
04-23-18, 09:48 AM
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With the head tube compressed, you've increased the head tube angle, so now the Sportier name is especially fitting.
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04-23-18, 10:30 AM
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Good decision, riding is why these machines exist. Not reasonable to abandon it and someday, you will have some time on your hands and could do a fix. Or not. Don
04-23-18, 10:50 AM
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So what's wrong with a few wrinkles? I got a few wrinkles ...
04-23-18, 11:50 AM
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That's it! Bike and rider are in alignment...
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04-23-18, 02:29 PM
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My LBS who knows a bunch about these old bikes has straightened a bunch after front end crashes and he figures that crunched and straightened, the frame retains about 95% of its integrity/strength. My PX-10 has been modified like that. Yours has only been crunched one direction so I figure you got 97.5% left to abuse. Pretty fancy bike. Those lights will come in handy next year with a dark-thirty Heroic ride start.
04-23-18, 06:39 PM
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Hopefully that head tube is not as soft as licorice like the one I had on the defective PSV I bought in 84 and you don't end up with a headset that will keep loosening and your headtube continuing to accordion on you......
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04-23-18, 06:41 PM
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We shall see. Since I know about it I'll check often.
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04-24-18, 09:18 AM
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Well, good on 'ya for completing the build and riding it. BUT, having observed the quality/detail of your other work, I suspect it will be a when, not an if, you replace that head tube. If it were mine, that bulge would be an "eye magnet".....I would not be able to look at the bike without focusing on the head tube.
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04-24-18, 09:38 AM
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Well, good on 'ya for completing the build and riding it. BUT, having observed the quality/detail of your other work, I suspect it will be a when, not an if, you replace that head tube. If it were mine, that bulge would be an "eye magnet".....I would not be able to look at the bike without focusing on the head tube.
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04-24-18, 10:22 AM
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My thoughts exactly, I have a vintage French bike that had a slight bend in the downtube, straightened up the head tube angle to 76 degrees and it is a more fun ride IMO. Plus the bulge adds character matching the embossed / inflated brass Reynolds badges which are super cool!
04-24-18, 10:26 AM
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I'm really kidding about the head angle. I doubt it's a significant difference, if any.
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04-24-18, 10:31 AM
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Many have expressed my thoughts so I won't repeat. I am curious about where the seam is on the HT.
Why?
Wondering if the seam was faulty and gave way. Though I would expect a split instead of a bulge. But then again, if it was a penetration issue, maybe part of the seam held to support a bulge deformation.
Why?
Wondering if the seam was faulty and gave way. Though I would expect a split instead of a bulge. But then again, if it was a penetration issue, maybe part of the seam held to support a bulge deformation.
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04-24-18, 11:21 AM
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Many have expressed my thoughts so I won't repeat. I am curious about where the seam is on the HT.
Why?
Wondering if the seam was faulty and gave way. Though I would expect a split instead of a bulge. But then again, if it was a penetration issue, maybe part of the seam held to support a bulge deformation.
Why?
Wondering if the seam was faulty and gave way. Though I would expect a split instead of a bulge. But then again, if it was a penetration issue, maybe part of the seam held to support a bulge deformation.
The techniques used today by most modern framebuilders with modern equipment are a big improvement from those used "back in the day". Most builders use silver filler for lugs now, so tubes just don't get heated up that hot. The couple of bucks savings from using a seamed, carbon steel tube for a head tube don't make sense anymore when even the least expensive production lugged frames start around a grand or so.
As is often said, we stand on the shoulders of giants.
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04-25-18, 08:03 AM
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Well one positive thing that came out of this mishap is that it's an educational situation for some - I never knew this could happen. Also didnt know frame builders BITD saved money by using seamed HTs. Seems like a poor way to save a small amount of money.
04-25-18, 08:19 AM
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Glad to see it’s being saved, looks like you have quite a bit of work in it already and some interesting plans for the build. Still, I can imagine that sinking feeling in the gut when you realize something is not as it should be...I think most of us can relate to that. Kudos on pushing through!
