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I use old-school Off-The-Front white bar tape since 2004, the material is like shower curtain, wipes off dirt & grease easily and very durable; lasts about 3-4 years, 2k mi. annually. I usually replace the tapes the same time I replace brake pads.
To avoid heel strike when you turn the handlebar?
Does it effect the handling?
Seems like the front fender/tire would hit your thigh when you turn the handlebar?
Ever consider changing to a smaller front wheel, 24" or 20"?
You have front disc brake anyway, smaller front wheel would allow the fork to be mounted correctly, disc caliper to be on the correct side of the bike and less chance of heel or thigh strike when you turn your handlebar.
Then again, that head angle is tough to compensate. Is it intentional to have near vertical head angle?
To avoid heel strike when you turn the handlebar?
Does it effect the handling?
Seems like the front fender/tire would hit your thigh when you turn the handlebar?
Ever consider changing to a smaller front wheel, 24" or 20"?
You have front disc brake anyway, smaller front wheel would allow the fork to be mounted correctly, disc caliper to be on the correct side of the bike and less chance of heel or thigh strike when you turn your handlebar.
Then again, that head angle is tough to compensate. Is it intentional to have near vertical head angle?
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A full explanation of the reverse rake is here: https://rothrockcyrcle.wordpress.com...cumbent-bikes/
A full explanation of the reverse rake is here: https://rothrockcyrcle.wordpress.com...cumbent-bikes/
To avoid heel strike when you turn the handlebar? No, not the intent. Almost all short wheelbase bents have heel strike. (with the front of the wheel or front of the fender, when present)
Does it effect the handling? It's part of the design for the handling, yes.
Seems like the front fender/tire would hit your thigh when you turn the handlebar? No, it doesn't get anywhere close to the back of my leg. Handlebar ends can hit your thighs in very sharp turns though.
Ever consider changing to a smaller front wheel, 24" or 20"? I have bents with smaller front wheels. This was specifically designed for dual 700C. There are some downsides to small front wheels.
You have front disc brake anyway, smaller front wheel would allow the fork to be mounted correctly, disc caliper to be on the correct side of the bike and less chance of heel or thigh strike when you turn your handlebar.
Then again, that head angle is tough to compensate. Is it intentional to have near vertical head angle? Yes, the steep steering angle is essentially why the fork has negative rake.
Does it effect the handling? It's part of the design for the handling, yes.
Seems like the front fender/tire would hit your thigh when you turn the handlebar? No, it doesn't get anywhere close to the back of my leg. Handlebar ends can hit your thighs in very sharp turns though.
Ever consider changing to a smaller front wheel, 24" or 20"? I have bents with smaller front wheels. This was specifically designed for dual 700C. There are some downsides to small front wheels.
You have front disc brake anyway, smaller front wheel would allow the fork to be mounted correctly, disc caliper to be on the correct side of the bike and less chance of heel or thigh strike when you turn your handlebar.
Then again, that head angle is tough to compensate. Is it intentional to have near vertical head angle? Yes, the steep steering angle is essentially why the fork has negative rake.
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Interesting, I never though flop would cause much concern on a short wheelbase recumbent.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
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My first Ti frameset/build. It's just about done and hoping to get it on the road first thing Sunday morning.
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Interesting, I never though flop would cause much concern on a short wheelbase recumbent.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
Recumbents that use more conventional steering geometry can and do work OK. They just aren't ideal.
I love George Reynolds bikes. I have two of them - Wishbone Classic 26/20 and Wishbone RT 26/26. If you ever want to sell that T-bone of yours, let me know. George used steeper steering angles than just about anyone else. He was onto something. My two Wishbones both have steering angles at around 79 degrees. The Wishbone Classic has a negative rake fork and the RT has a zero rake fork. I know the Z-bone used a zero rake fork too. Not sure about the T-bone, though. The Zevo just takes the design approach George used on the Wishbones and Z-bone and extends it a bit further. George's Wishbones were a partial inspiration for the Zevo.
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My first Ti build, a Lynskey Helix disc road is just about done, sans the bar tape which finally arrives tomorrow. I took it out this morning for what was supposed to be a quick, 10-15 mile loop ended up being close to a 50 mile ride. I didn't care about the temps hovering in the low 30s and I just kept going, enjoying my morning ride. I was expecting an ultra smooth, predictable, calm ride because of its Ti construction and it didn't disappoint. Even when out of the saddle, it reacts so smoothly and almost a bit too well behaved for me. It is comfortable, nimble and most of all, the handling is on point which is a huge plus for me. That is the one ride characteristic that usually helps me decide whether or not I keep a bike.
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My first Ti build, a Lynskey Helix disc road is just about done, sans the bar tape which finally arrives tomorrow. I took it out this morning for what was supposed to be a quick, 10-15 mile loop ended up being close to a 50 mile ride. I didn't care about the temps hovering in the low 30s and I just kept going, enjoying my morning ride. I was expecting an ultra smooth, predictable, calm ride because of its Ti construction and it didn't disappoint. Even when out of the saddle, it reacts so smoothly and almost a bit too well behaved for me. It is comfortable, nimble and most of all, the handling is on point which is a huge plus for me. That is the one ride characteristic that usually helps me decide whether or not I keep a bike.
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Thanks. I'm definitely no gymnast, lol. I think the angle of how the pic was taken makes the drop much deeper than it is. Plus, I favor and use handlebars with traditional drops/bends such as this 3T Superleggera.
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made in U.S., Teledyne & Litespeed.
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My first Ti build, a Lynskey Helix disc road is just about done, sans the bar tape which finally arrives tomorrow. I took it out this morning for what was supposed to be a quick, 10-15 mile loop ended up being close to a 50 mile ride. I didn't care about the temps hovering in the low 30s and I just kept going, enjoying my morning ride. I was expecting an ultra smooth, predictable, calm ride because of its Ti construction and it didn't disappoint. Even when out of the saddle, it reacts so smoothly and almost a bit too well behaved for me. It is comfortable, nimble and most of all, the handling is on point which is a huge plus for me. That is the one ride characteristic that usually helps me decide whether or not I keep a bike.
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I'm setting it up tubeless this weekend. I have the same GK tires but in 38s on my SBC all-road and ran it it tubed for the shakedown ride and then went tubeless afterwards.
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Interesting, I never though flop would cause much concern on a short wheelbase recumbent.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
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Wish Ti bikes were less expensive-would love to own one someday. The frames have several nice qualities about them.
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Don't knock it 'til you've tried it; it's lightweight, offers decent padding, it doesn't collect water/sweat nor heat up like foam; it's easily washable, cheap and very durable.
I bought my brand new Lynskey disc gravel frame on eBay for less than $500 back in 2018.
My current 2001 Litespeed Ultimate was purchased used back in 2004 for $1700 as complete bike, sans pedals.
It is all about knowing what you're looking for and be patient while looking at multiple sources.
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I don’t have much info on my bike’s origins. I bought it in 2004 or 2005 from the original owner who raced got it through team sponsorship from Higher Gear around Chicago. It’s probably a 2001 or 2002. It had full Dura Ace group set, 3T stem and bar, Thomson seat post and Fizik seat, LeMond carbon fork. I replaced the original wheel set a long time ago and don’t remember the originals, maybe Zipp. I haven’t seen this orange and blue gulf livery on any other LeMond. It also has a (race number?) tab on the underside of the top tube.
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I haven’t rode my ti mtb for a couple of years, and last time I picked up the frame when reorganizing my garage, I realized there is a crack in the chainstay ☹️
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Interesting, I never though flop would cause much concern on a short wheelbase recumbent.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
I normally ride a Vision R40 or SatRDay as short wheelbase recumbents,
I guess I have experienced the "flop" in tight turns, but never thought about it as a significant issue.
I have been meaning to complete my titanium recumbent build for the last couple of years, but it's difficult to find a replacement fork for 1" steertube with disc brake mount.
I would like to go to a smaller front wheel than 700c, wouldn't mind a smaller rear wheel, too.
That bike is a beast! I look forward to seeing it completely built out.
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