Well guys, I'm buying the Lemond.
#26
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Hey hey now, I'm only 34, I'm not dead yet!
Did either of them really win in that exchange?
I raced the C's in my freshman year too. I was strong from running cross country in high school but oh so sketchy. I did pretty well in that VT race though, no handling skills required to point a bicycle uphill and suffer. By the time I was better at handling a bike, my engineering classes had kicked in and I was struggling to get 5 hours a week in. Needless to say, I didn't have the most illustrious collegiate cycling career. It was fun though, especially the mountain bike season.
I was firmly with the C's back then - the first time up, most of the field was zig zagging up the wall at the end. I was a moto official and got to ride with the A race one of the year's a UVA rider ended up winning the national championship, and Matt Decanio (who went pro) was riding for App St. I could not believe how fast those guys went up the climb. Incredible.
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I have/had a 2001 Lemond Zurich. Last Saturday (May 10) a small SUV decided to T-bone me as I was riding it. Fork is pretty much shattered in two places and the top tube has a healthy kink. I haven't done a complete inspection of the bike yet. It was my second road bike and the only one in the road stable.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
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I have/had a 2001 Lemond Zurich. Last Saturday (May 10) a small SUV decided to T-bone me as I was riding it. Fork is pretty much shattered in two places and the top tube has a healthy kink. I haven't done a complete inspection of the bike yet. It was my second road bike and the only one in the road stable.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
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#29
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That bike lived an epic life; thanks for sharing.
I nearly bought a Lemond Zurich last week but it was a size too long. I still don't get how mere mortals without long torsos and arms ride these with their stretched out geometry.
Even its most recent build is decently aggressive; I imagine that your center of mass is fairly forward of the BB when putting down maximum power. Such a strange location for the weld to fail.
I nearly bought a Lemond Zurich last week but it was a size too long. I still don't get how mere mortals without long torsos and arms ride these with their stretched out geometry.
Even its most recent build is decently aggressive; I imagine that your center of mass is fairly forward of the BB when putting down maximum power. Such a strange location for the weld to fail.
#30
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I have/had a 2001 Lemond Zurich. Last Saturday (May 10) a small SUV decided to T-bone me as I was riding it. Fork is pretty much shattered in two places and the top tube has a healthy kink. I haven't done a complete inspection of the bike yet. It was my second road bike and the only one in the road stable.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
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#31
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Hey hey now, I'm only 34, I'm not dead yet!
Did either of them really win in that exchange?
I raced the C's in my freshman year too. I was strong from running cross country in high school but oh so sketchy. I did pretty well in that VT race though, no handling skills required to point a bicycle uphill and suffer. By the time I was better at handling a bike, my engineering classes had kicked in and I was struggling to get 5 hours a week in. Needless to say, I didn't have the most illustrious collegiate cycling career. It was fun though, especially the mountain bike season.
Did either of them really win in that exchange?
I raced the C's in my freshman year too. I was strong from running cross country in high school but oh so sketchy. I did pretty well in that VT race though, no handling skills required to point a bicycle uphill and suffer. By the time I was better at handling a bike, my engineering classes had kicked in and I was struggling to get 5 hours a week in. Needless to say, I didn't have the most illustrious collegiate cycling career. It was fun though, especially the mountain bike season.
#32
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That bike lived an epic life; thanks for sharing.
I nearly bought a Lemond Zurich last week but it was a size too long. I still don't get how mere mortals without long torsos and arms ride these with their stretched out geometry.
Even its most recent build is decently aggressive; I imagine that your center of mass is fairly forward of the BB when putting down maximum power. Such a strange location for the weld to fail.
I nearly bought a Lemond Zurich last week but it was a size too long. I still don't get how mere mortals without long torsos and arms ride these with their stretched out geometry.
Even its most recent build is decently aggressive; I imagine that your center of mass is fairly forward of the BB when putting down maximum power. Such a strange location for the weld to fail.
#33
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I have/had a 2001 Lemond Zurich. Last Saturday (May 10) a small SUV decided to T-bone me as I was riding it. Fork is pretty much shattered in two places and the top tube has a healthy kink. I haven't done a complete inspection of the bike yet. It was my second road bike and the only one in the road stable.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
As for me, I was taken by ambulance to the hospital. Came out with a broken rib, missing tooth, five stitches, and a bunch of bruising.
#34
Flyin' under the radar
I think you should get it repaired, then repainted. Personally, I'm a fan of custom paint jobs on Lemonds.
#36
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https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2003lemond.pdf
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2006lemond.pdf
Did yours have any rust inside the tubes? That's the main reason I'm not going to repair the one I've got, when I was trying to fix the creaking I took the BB out and it was just a nasty orange mess inside. No pitting in the BB shell, but the adjoining tubes looked like they were full of rust. Since I think the headtube crack might be stress corrosion cracking related, I'm worried that I'd just be chasing cracks the whole time. Also, a dirty secret about modern high hardenability steels like these is that they're not that repairable. Sure, I could get someone to grind out the crack and lay another bead, but all the stresses that caused the crack in the first place are still there and I think it would crack again very soon. It would be a much more dignified end to be an art piece for my den. I'll post pics when its up.
#37
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Dang, that's nice! I see in your profile that its a 2003 Lemond Croix De Fer, though they didn't come out with the Croix De Fer until the 2006 model year, it was a bit of a throwback, probably because they went all in on aluminum and the "spine" bikes in 2004 and 2005. I'm thinking that with your straight blade 1 1/8" fork, you've probably got either a 2003 vintage Zurich or Buenos Aries OR and 2006 Croix de Fer/Sarthe. Very similar frames, but the 2003 frames were 853 and the 2006s were true temper. Probably very similar materials though.
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2003lemond.pdf
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2006lemond.pdf
Did yours have any rust inside the tubes? That's the main reason I'm not going to repair the one I've got, when I was trying to fix the creaking I took the BB out and it was just a nasty orange mess inside. No pitting in the BB shell, but the adjoining tubes looked like they were full of rust. Since I think the headtube crack might be stress corrosion cracking related, I'm worried that I'd just be chasing cracks the whole time. Also, a dirty secret about modern high hardenability steels like these is that they're not that repairable. Sure, I could get someone to grind out the crack and lay another bead, but all the stresses that caused the crack in the first place are still there and I think it would crack again very soon. It would be a much more dignified end to be an art piece for my den. I'll post pics when its up.
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2003lemond.pdf
https://www.vintage-trek.com/Trek-Fi...2006lemond.pdf
Did yours have any rust inside the tubes? That's the main reason I'm not going to repair the one I've got, when I was trying to fix the creaking I took the BB out and it was just a nasty orange mess inside. No pitting in the BB shell, but the adjoining tubes looked like they were full of rust. Since I think the headtube crack might be stress corrosion cracking related, I'm worried that I'd just be chasing cracks the whole time. Also, a dirty secret about modern high hardenability steels like these is that they're not that repairable. Sure, I could get someone to grind out the crack and lay another bead, but all the stresses that caused the crack in the first place are still there and I think it would crack again very soon. It would be a much more dignified end to be an art piece for my den. I'll post pics when its up.
Inside the tubes were surprisingly clean. The seat tube had minor surface rust toward the top but had that removed/treated when I had the bike painted. That said, I can understand your hesitancy if there's concern your frame's internal integrity may not be up to snuff.
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