Bike repair stand
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You may not need Snap-on tools to work on bikes or cars...but using them makes working on them a pure pleasure.
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He's not wrong ya know. The typical bike enthusiast that doesn't work in a shop wrenching all day every day doesn't need the most expensive stuff. I'm betting the bike hand stand will last a lifetime for most folks. And even if it doesn't, your still money ahead if it breaks and you'd have to purchase a second one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_W5nTVWxb4
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I don’t see the “problem” you allege, as one does not need Snap On tools to work on cars, either. Watch B is for Build on YouTube, and you’ll see those dudes building entire cars with all Harbor Freight stuff, for example.
I’ll point out again, the comparable Park stand to the BikeHand is the $219 PCS 9.3, and it’s worth noting that PCS is short for Park Consumer Stand; it is not Park’s pro level stand, and arguably is therefore not “pro quality” either.
In any case, I find it sickeningly sanctimonious to make adjudications about what others need, particularly when you have a stand which you admit to hardly using. The hypocrisy is disgusting, man.
I’ll point out again, the comparable Park stand to the BikeHand is the $219 PCS 9.3, and it’s worth noting that PCS is short for Park Consumer Stand; it is not Park’s pro level stand, and arguably is therefore not “pro quality” either.
In any case, I find it sickeningly sanctimonious to make adjudications about what others need, particularly when you have a stand which you admit to hardly using. The hypocrisy is disgusting, man.
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What about some of us that have off road hunting E bikes with fat tires that weigh in around 80#+ and those (round) clamping jaws don't fit these bike fames that have square type of frames or seat posts that are 3-1/2" by 1-1/2" etc.
Not any choices, that I have found so far......?
Not any choices, that I have found so far......?
#107
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For the majority of work we perform on bikes we are talking non-specialty tools like allen wrenches, torx/star wrenches and few other miscellaneous tools etc. All of which can be purchased from another brand that is much cheaper and equal or same quality. There is no advantage to Park's non-specialty tools that I'm aware of except that they are blue. So if you like to have everything on your workbench in matching color...then go for it!!!
For bike specific tools, Park has a fairly complete lineup...But so do other companies at much cheaper price.
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Park Tool makes their hand tools in the U.S., that's enough for me. They also support many biking groups and associations including ones for disenfranchised kids. That's important to me.
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Most everything from Park Tool is cost prohibitive in my opinion. As I stated early on in this thread they are living on a name.
For the majority of work we perform on bikes we are talking non-specialty tools like allen wrenches, torx/star wrenches and few other miscellaneous tools etc. All of which can be purchased from another brand that is much cheaper and equal or same quality. There is no advantage to Park's non-specialty tools that I'm aware of except that they are blue. So if you like to have everything on your workbench in matching color...then go for it!!!
For bike specific tools, Park has a fairly complete lineup...But so do other companies at much cheaper price.
For the majority of work we perform on bikes we are talking non-specialty tools like allen wrenches, torx/star wrenches and few other miscellaneous tools etc. All of which can be purchased from another brand that is much cheaper and equal or same quality. There is no advantage to Park's non-specialty tools that I'm aware of except that they are blue. So if you like to have everything on your workbench in matching color...then go for it!!!
For bike specific tools, Park has a fairly complete lineup...But so do other companies at much cheaper price.
Keep in mind, bicycle tools will not see the kind of force, or pressure, applied to them as an automotive tool will see.
The other thing too when it comes to tools, is never buy a tool kit, this is true for bicycles as it is for cars or home repair tools. You only buy the tool you need when you need it, that way you're not paying for tools you might already have or paying for tools you might never use. Home power tools are the same thing, when you buy a bundled power tool "to save money", they provide you with an inferior power tools vs buying the "same" looking tool individually, that's how they can sell 2 or 3 or 4 items in a package deal. If you look at the model numbers of a packaged tools vs an individual ones, they are usually off by one or two numbers and/or letters. I have a feeling, though I'm not sure since they don't put individual model numbers on each hand tool, but I have heard from pros this is true, that when you buy a bicycle tool kit, or a car tool kit they cheapen the quality of the tools to offer you the package deal. So just buy a tool when you need it; in the long run it will not only save you money but you won't have a lot of wasted tools that you never used, or wasted money on redundant tools.
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”Disenfranchised kids” is a funny turn of phrase!
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Yes agreed. Strange choice of words. My brain was obviously other places at that moment.
The term they use is "at-risk". Not sure that is much better. (?) Kids that can't afford bikes is what I think they're going for.
https://www.parktool.com/company/advocacy
https://www.tripsforkids.org/
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The term they use is "at-risk". Not sure that is much better. (?) Kids that can't afford bikes is what I think they're going for.
https://www.parktool.com/company/advocacy
https://www.tripsforkids.org/
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#115
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Guys,
It was a rainy day this past Saturday so I spent it working on 4 different bikes with my $60 bike stand I purchased from Amazon. Nobody died and no bikes were hurt in the process.
Looks like we have another player similar to the Bike Hand stand....
https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Mecha...s%2C338&sr=8-5
It was a rainy day this past Saturday so I spent it working on 4 different bikes with my $60 bike stand I purchased from Amazon. Nobody died and no bikes were hurt in the process.
Looks like we have another player similar to the Bike Hand stand....
https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Mecha...s%2C338&sr=8-5
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I’m a novice at maintenance and needed a repair stand. I got motivated by the Lidl post above. Picked it up Sunday and for $40 I am pleasantly surprised. Replaced my chain, bar tape, and indexed the gears.
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Guys,
It was a rainy day this past Saturday so I spent it working on 4 different bikes with my $60 bike stand I purchased from Amazon. Nobody died and no bikes were hurt in the process.
Looks like we have another player similar to the Bike Hand stand....
https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Mecha...s%2C338&sr=8-5
It was a rainy day this past Saturday so I spent it working on 4 different bikes with my $60 bike stand I purchased from Amazon. Nobody died and no bikes were hurt in the process.
Looks like we have another player similar to the Bike Hand stand....
https://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Mecha...s%2C338&sr=8-5
Count yourself very fortunate that you didn't die, I heard that there was roughly 10,000 people who died using that bike stand. It's not any different than it was before disk brakes came along, I'm the only survivor from my team, everyone else flew off mountain roads and died because of those crappy rim brakes, I use to wear out my shoes very fast because I needed extra stopping power that the rim brakes lacked. Oh, the horror of it, seeing all those dead bodies scattered all over the race course, and people I knew too, but I toughed it out and somehow survived. Now I sleep in peace because I have a bike with disk brakes, whew! But now I suffer from PTSD from seeing people fly off cliffs, god, I have to grab my emotional support dog now that you brought all this death images up in my brain, I'm a wreck, I have to take the dog now to the grocery store with me, see ya later.
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Yes, you didn't know that? Not only that, but after wrenching with Snap On tools you're far less tired than you would be using Harbor Freight tools or something like that, Snap On tools make you feel refreshed, energized, happy, they allow you to fix things on your car or bike that you had no idea how to fix before because the tools just guide you.
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there is a saying ...
buy a good tool - and cry once when you pay for it and then smile every time you use it
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buy a cheap tool - and smile when you buy it and then cry every time you use it
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buy a good tool - and cry once when you pay for it and then smile every time you use it
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buy a cheap tool - and smile when you buy it and then cry every time you use it
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Yes, you didn't know that? Not only that, but after wrenching with Snap On tools you're far less tired than you would be using Harbor Freight tools or something like that, Snap On tools make you feel refreshed, energized, happy, they allow you to fix things on your car or bike that you had no idea how to fix before because the tools just guide you.
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Yes, you didn't know that? Not only that, but after wrenching with Snap On tools you're far less tired than you would be using Harbor Freight tools or something like that, Snap On tools make you feel refreshed, energized, happy, they allow you to fix things on your car or bike that you had no idea how to fix before because the tools just guide you.
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You can resell Snap-On hand tools, they hold their value well. If you check eBay you'll see used Snap-On going for almost new prices.
I don't think you can say that about other tools, maybe vintage Craftsman (which ironically started as a Snap-On knock-off.)
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I don't think you can say that about other tools, maybe vintage Craftsman (which ironically started as a Snap-On knock-off.)
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the difference in a Craftsman professional screwdriver vs a standard Craftsman screwdriver (that most own) is night and day
( many of these tools are produced by SK, Armstrong, etc)
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