‘82 Miyata 310 - extra parts after re-assembly - please help
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‘82 Miyata 310 - extra parts after re-assembly - please help
Hello All - I bought this bike, and disassembled it down to the bare frame, even took apart the rear derailer and shifters. Figured it would be a good learning experience. RJ The Bike Guy on YouTube was a huge help. Anyways, I committed the cardinal sin of disassembly and did not take pictures. When I put it back together, I was left with a few extra parts. 2 square like nut looking things that have 2 “ears” and a slight curve , then these 4 metal tabs with a bend. Any idea what those might be, where the hey go & how, and if they are necessary? New to the forum, and guess I am not allowed to upload pictures yet. If anyone knows a work around, that would be great. My descriptions are not the best, I know. Thank you in advance.
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You're gonna have to figure out a way to post photos. My magic 8 ball is down for maintenance.
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My blind guess of the 2 squares with ears might be downtube shifter stops.
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You can upload pics to the Gallery here on BF and just tell us they are there. Or upload them to https://imgur.com/ or some other hosting site and figure out how to obfuscate the URL from the SPAM filter and just type it in the plain text of your posts. It's sort of a test to see if we are getting good quality noobs! <grin>
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Hello All - I bought this bike, and disassembled it down to the bare frame, even took apart the rear derailer and shifters. Figured it would be a good learning experience. RJ The Bike Guy on YouTube was a huge help. Anyways, I committed the cardinal sin of disassembly and did not take pictures. When I put it back together, I was left with a few extra parts. 2 square like nut looking things that have 2 “ears” and a slight curve , then these 4 metal tabs with a bend. Any idea what those might be, where the hey go & how, and if they are necessary? New to the forum, and guess I am not allowed to upload pictures yet. If anyone knows a work around, that would be great. My descriptions are not the best, I know. Thank you in advance.
Hint: if you took the bike apart and put it back together with parts left over they were probably needed. Have you ridden the bike yet? One thing to do when you take something like a bicycle apart is to keep parts of various assemblies together. Brake parts stay with brake parts. Shifter parts stay with shifter parts. Derailleur parts(front or rear)stay with derailleur parts. This was how we did things before digital photography made taking pictures cheap. At least that way you would know where the extra parts came from and have an idea what to look for if something wasn't working properly
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Hello All - I bought this bike, and disassembled it down to the bare frame, even took apart the rear derailer and shifters. Figured it would be a good learning experience. RJ The Bike Guy on YouTube was a huge help. Anyways, I committed the cardinal sin of disassembly and did not take pictures. When I put it back together, I was left with a few extra parts. 2 square like nut looking things that have 2 “ears” and a slight curve , then these 4 metal tabs with a bend. Any idea what those might be, where the hey go & how, and if they are necessary? New to the forum, and guess I am not allowed to upload pictures yet. If anyone knows a work around, that would be great. My descriptions are not the best, I know. Thank you in advance.
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Nesting pads for the brakes. Front wheel retainers.
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The best way to find out what the missing parts are is to find the biggest hill you can find, start at the top and........
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I am liking the humor on here, seem like a fun bunch a guys. Sound advice as well, so thank you. I’ll just wait till I hit the 10 posts, should only take a day or two. I need to put my wife’s bike back together anyways. That aside, I did take it for a spin this morning. If anyone one is from LA, you probably know how hilly it is. Certainly made things interesting. To recap, headset came a little lose. Might need some thread lock or something. Back tire shifted, and was rubbing again the seat stay. Tightening the skewer with a kung foo grip, seemed to address that. Old school bike, thought it would be cool to put on old school bar tape with no padding. That was a mistake. It reminded me that I was in my mid 30s, quite punishing. Last but not least, the breaks were very “squishy.” Front cable end popped off somehow, line frayed a bit. I saw Jesus when heading down one of those hills into an intersection. Leads me to believe those “extra” parts are in fact for the brakes, and necessary. All in all, I lived to bike another day. Y’all enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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Hi, how's it going? (Only two more posts!)
PS Don't ride a bike with parts missing; even if you don't die, you could destroy the bike.
PS Don't ride a bike with parts missing; even if you don't die, you could destroy the bike.
I am liking the humor on here, seem like a fun bunch a guys. Sound advice as well, so thank you. I’ll just wait till I hit the 10 posts, should only take a day or two. I need to put my wife’s bike back together anyways. That aside, I did take it for a spin this morning. If anyone one is from LA, you probably know how hilly it is. Certainly made things interesting. To recap, headset came a little lose. Might need some thread lock or something. Back tire shifted, and was rubbing again the seat stay. Tightening the skewer with a kung foo grip, seemed to address that. Old school bike, thought it would be cool to put on old school bar tape with no padding. That was a mistake. It reminded me that I was in my mid 30s, quite punishing. Last but not least, the breaks were very “squishy.” Front cable end popped off somehow, line frayed a bit. I saw Jesus when heading down one of those hills into an intersection. Leads me to believe those “extra” parts are in fact for the brakes, and necessary. All in all, I lived to bike another day. Y’all enjoy the rest of your weekend.
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I had a motorcycle like that. Every time I took the motor down I had pieces left over after it was back together.
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I use cloth bar tape on my bikes and find it quite comfortable. But then again, I'm close to twice your age and have many other pains to distract me.
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Drum roll . These little guys are the parts in question. I should mention that the brakes are dia comp, suntour vx front & tear derailer & suntour power shifters. I could not tell you how much time I spent looking for photos online, or at eBay listings and zooming into to see how this stuff went back together. All things considered, Think I did pretty good. That aside, Lesson learned.
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The four parts that look like washers with teeth might be spacers to fill the back of the rear dropouts. The screws pass through the ones with larger holes and thread into the threaded holes on the other ones. The curved end of the 'tooth' goes against the axle.
The other parts look like the cleats that hold the band clamps that hold the brake levers on. If the brake levers are already on then I am wrong and these are something else.
The other parts look like the cleats that hold the band clamps that hold the brake levers on. If the brake levers are already on then I am wrong and these are something else.
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I see. Well I will do some searches in google images to confirm. The breaks are on and have been assembled, but it’s possible I forgot parts. Thank you everyone for responding. If you have any other thoughts, I would greatly appreciate it. Planning on giving it a second ride this weekend. Have a great night!
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Clyde's got it.
The dropout spacers are installed with the screwhead on the outside.
After a complete strip and rebuild of my VW bug in 1979, I had a coffee can with 3 or 4 leftovers.
The dropout spacers are installed with the screwhead on the outside.
After a complete strip and rebuild of my VW bug in 1979, I had a coffee can with 3 or 4 leftovers.
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Assuming that your rear dropouts are horizontal. (if not never mind) Loosely assemble the dropout spacers/stops and slide them into the dropouts, big end towards the back. Install the wheel and make sure that its straight and not cocked to one side. Slide the spacer/stops against the axle and tighten the screws on the drop out spacers/stops. Otherwise you will be cursing yourself every time you remove and reinstall your rear wheel as you try to get the wheel straight in the frame. Also if you don't install them, your axle will slide in the dropouts and eventually the rim will rub the frame and/or brakes.
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Assuming that your rear dropouts are horizontal. (if not never mind) Loosely assemble the dropout spacers/stops and slide them into the dropouts, big end towards the back. Install the wheel and make sure that its straight and not cocked to one side. Slide the spacer/stops against the axle and tighten the screws on the drop out spacers/stops. Otherwise you will be cursing yourself every time you remove and reinstall your rear wheel as you try to get the wheel straight in the frame. Also if you don't install them, your axle will slide in the dropouts and eventually the rim will rub the frame and/or brakes.
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Assuming that your rear dropouts are horizontal. (if not never mind) Loosely assemble the dropout spacers/stops and slide them into the dropouts, big end towards the back. Install the wheel and make sure that its straight and not cocked to one side. Slide the spacer/stops against the axle and tighten the screws on the drop out spacers/stops. Otherwise you will be cursing yourself every time you remove and reinstall your rear wheel as you try to get the wheel straight in the frame. Also if you don't install them, your axle will slide in the dropouts and eventually the rim will rub the frame and/or brakes.
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All of those that I have had experience with, including my personal touring steed, if you tighten the two halves together with the screw, the spacer will not be able to move in the dropout. This provides a physical stop that will prevent the axle from sliding backwards in the dropout preventing the wheel from canting off center. With everything installed, when you stand beside the bike and grab the wheel, the axle shifts and the wheel moves sideways? Stupid question, but you are installing one of each dropout, right?
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Are you tightening the skewer properly? I don't mean to disparage your mechanic skill, but after years of volunteering at our local co-op I see many folks that don't do it right. If you use it like a wing nut, it will not adequately secure your wheel. This video may help:
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Are you tightening the skewer properly? I don't mean to disparage your mechanic skill, but after years of volunteering at our local co-op I see many folks that don't do it right. If you use it like a wing nut, it will not adequately secure your wheel. This video may help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHTyVSf8VlQ
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Ha Ha! None of us were born with the innate ability to put things back together the way they came apart. Taking a picture before you disassemble something sure helps. YouTube videos can be a pretty good guide. If you are lucky it will work out as easily as the YouTube video shows but don't always count on it. Learning by doing is much more effective than watching someone else do a task. You are on your way to being skilled.