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Old 07-25-23, 03:47 PM
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Help me organize my shop

My basement workshop is a mess, but I am torn on how to handle it. Mainly bike stuff, but other household repair tools too. I am tired of losing screwdrives, spoke wrenches and pliers.

This is where most of my tools live. I actually bought this on a bike ride!

Overall view. Some bikes in-progress, some just for the memories.

My workbench. maybe put a pegboard over this?

Just an example. I hope to have the discipline to put the tools back.

Or should I get something like this? I don't need to roll it around, but lots of room for cassette tools, cone wrenches and chain tools.
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No pictures, but my layout it something like this. I don’t have enough wall space to pegboard everything, nor do I use my bike tools weekly anymore. This also encompasses more than bike tools (see #6).

1. Tools that are too big to fit in a drawer are hung on the wall. This is 18” pipe and crescent wrenches, long hand saws, the fire extinguisher, frame straightener, etc.
2. Tools that are infrequently used, but when needed used in a group away from their storage location, are stored on a shelf in a zipped canvas bag. Eg. one for torch, pipe cutting, and other plumbing supplies. One for soldering and electrical work, one for the cordless drills, charger, and drivers.
3. Clamps get clamped to a column or ceiling rafter above my head.
4. Generic tools are grouped by type in a small drawer type toolbox. Screwdrivers in one drawer, pliers in the second, wrenches in DIY fabric wrench rolls in the third. Allen wrenches in this drawer too. Tape measure and other frequently needed misc. tools on the top. I’d say 90% of my tool needs come from this small box.
5. Auto tools that don’t fit in the small carry (it’s heavy) size box go in the larger rolling chest under it. One drawer for junk, one for sockets, one for sealants, one for files and the hacksaw, one for hammers and big stuff, one for torque wrenches. Anything with even cheap ball bearing slides keeps me happy.
6. You’ll notice a lot of tools that I might use on a bike already have a home. This. Leaves another 3 drawer portable toolbox for my bike specific tools. Again, most used on top to least on the bottoms. The top of this chest has the stuff I want within reach first. Lubricants, cable and housing ferrule bottles, electrical tape (in a tiny rectangular bin), cable cutters, allen wrenches, etc. Cone and spoke wrenches in the first drawer. Freewheel, bottom bracket, crank removal, etc. tools in the next drawer. Bottom drawer is the big stuff. Chain whips, headset wrenches, a DIY headset press that packs down very small. If I want to work outside my hose I throw some screwdrivers and wrenches into a bag, grab this box, and go on my way.
8. I don’t keep a big collection of bike parts, but those are all in PROPERLY LABELLED plastic shoeboxes, the sort you get for $1 each. One each for derailers, pedals, cables, stems, reflectors, tubes, etc. I rarely fill a box because most of my spare parts have been used or given away, but if I do then I break it into two and relabel. Example if derailers filled up I might make one box for fronts and one for rears, or MTB vs road.
9. Metalworking tools and fixtures go in a much heavier box (Lista, Vidmar, etc.). This is major overkill for most things and I wouldn’t bother, but when you put 200 to 300 pounds into a single drawer some of the requirements change.
10. The bench vise is bolted to a bench. The only reason that bench isn’t screwed to the wall is that I’m not sure I like its current location.
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Old 07-25-23, 05:34 PM
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Beyond the TLDR I wrote above, labels and things being straight go a long way. Raise your bike hooks enough that the rear wheels are just off the ground and the frames hang straight. It’ll take a similar amount of space, but look nicer. That and adding lighting makes workspaces much more pleasant.
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I prefer white peg board. I wouldn't want it nearly as cluttered as the one pictured--that can be less than useful, Some folks draw outlines of their tools on the board with a sharpie to remember where they go. Much of my bike work involves generic tools like box end wrenches or screwdrivers. I keep most of my bike-specific tools in a tool box in the house. A bench vice is a necessity. I also prefer to line the front edge of my bench in aluminum or steel angle iron.

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Maybe I need a combo of both. Pegboard to easily access frequently used items, but drawers for small items, extra CO2 cartridges, freewheel removers, etc.

And definitely agree on the lighting.

Oh, can't easily move the rack for bikes, it is screwed into the cinder block.
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Old 07-25-23, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by bblair

And definitely agree on the lighting.
That’s my next project. Have a nice LED bench lamp I need to install.
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Old 07-25-23, 06:35 PM
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You’ve got a good start with that workbench, but man! All that wasted space on the wall behind it!!
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Last couple years I've been using a US general side cabinet with peg board, and a small bench top, it wasn't big enough so this year I bought the 44" cabinet for my wood shop and moved my 26" to the basement workshop. Where it was really too small and useless in the woodshop the 26" is a good size for the bike repair setup in the basement. Now I need to stop being lazy and make a new benchtop for it and get two more pegboard panels for the back to have the best layout.
Regarding the 44" cabinet you show, you'll need some real help moving it to the basement. I had no real problems soloing the 26" down the stairs to the basement. I struggled just to get the 44" up the one step into the woodshop and from there into the shop. It is really heavy and I wouldn't try taking it down some steps without some real help.
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Old 07-25-23, 11:14 PM
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I went the roll away route.
It's just an easy solution that can be moved when (not if) you decide to rearrange your work space.
(Series2 is a good choice since it's readily expandable)
((I went he cheaper route))
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For perspective, I'm a working bicycle mechanic. My personal basement shop is a semi-clustershow most of the time, but I keep all my personal tools in a nice mobile pelican case, but that's only for the occasional times I do race support, otherwise a more general purpose tool cabinet makes more sense. I use the single drawer under my bench for very small parts storage (bolts, hangers, ferrules, end caps, etc)Your wood shelving looks pretty OK for medium-sized parts storage.

Some professional workspaces use cabinet drawers for everything because it looks clean, and encourages cleanliness, but I really like having pegboard for common tools-- don't go overboard, but try to keep everything you're likely to use often in reach, and make use of the vertical space you have. Try to get absolutely everything you possibly can off the work bench--it tends to get mixed up with tools you're using, and you need all that room sometimes. Get some small parts organizing boxes with dividers.
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Originally Posted by bblair
Maybe I need a combo of both. Pegboard to easily access frequently used items, but drawers for small items, extra CO2 cartridges, freewheel removers, etc.

And definitely agree on the lighting.

Oh, can't easily move the rack for bikes, it is screwed into the cinder block.
a masonry bit, even in a normal drill, and a pack of block inserts will solve that problem. Easier with a hammer drill, but the bit will survive in a normal drill for that quantity of holes.
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Old 07-26-23, 03:16 AM
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Peg boards are good, but I find magnetic bars very handy. Easy to screw on and easy to move if you want to rearrange. Oh, you can also expand to the spare bedroom, I mean what a waste being spare…….
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My problem is having multiple work places. Having thousands of tools I own 3 roll aways. Main in the garage for mostly hand and automotive tools. Second in the garage stores mostly automotive parts and supplies and gets used as mobile work station, third is in the basement for hand tools. Power tools (circle saw, sanders heat gun, etc) store in old kitchen cabinets mounted on the basement workshop walls. Other cased power tools (sawzall, angle grinder) as well as small job specific (plumbing, electrical) tool boxes sit under basement workbench. Cordless tools are canvas tool bags W/acc, 1 for regular use (drill, saw) and 1 for less frequent (angle grinder, sabre saw).

There is also peg board above the basement wortkbench for frequent use things like some screwdrivers as well as things like framing squares, larger pipe wrenches
That workbench has a 5" vise and 8" angle grinder on it with switched outlets mounted in front. A few old steel factory work shelved tables in the garage store things, one has 2 vises on it, another has the drill press.
Starting out I always advise people to buy a bottom roll away. Mount a piece of 3/4" plywood on top and it stores tools and is a mobile work table. at least until like all horizontal surfaces, it fills with junk.

Bike tools are in 2 small portable tool boxes. One has the common hand tools and bike specific like spoke & cone wrenches, cassette/crank/chain tools. The other one has less common used or larger like headset wrenches, cotter tool, chain whip


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Tool boards are useful for "at a glance" inventory of your tools. when working on aircraft and spacecraft, a continuous inventory is critical to ensure that you have not inadvertently left a tool inside a bay or in a nacelle. Or ensure that nobody has walked off with that Snap-On ratchet handle

not to mention quick access.

A pleasant, well organized work area will make the process of working on bikes much more pleasant. And don't forget lighting ! I have had very good luck with 12 volt LED light bars that are intended for vehicle use. A good lighting setup will transform your work area and make every project easier !

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Nope, not going to bother...neat and orderly is a trait of genetics...all others just do what you can and leave my work shop and tools alone...good luck ! ! !
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My 20'x20' garage is a multi-use space...


Here's a closer shot of the bike area...
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If you have time to go down a youtube rabit hole.

Can't post links but search for 5 Principles of Organization from Van Neistat.

And also there are many videos from Adam Savage on shop organization. A recent one titled "Adam Savage Rearranges His Workshop Storage System" shows a bunch of stuff, but there are others. Lots of good products and ideas mentioned in these videos for inspiration.

You're starting from a good place in that you seem to have not that much stuff and plenty of free space. Some bins, labels, and shelves/pegboard behind that workbench will go a long way.
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That rolling cabinet was just an example, not one I am looking to purchase. Some of those are crazy expensive.
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Not sure if you're responding to me or someone else, but I get that and don't think you need that rolling cabinet based on the stuff I see you having right there. I would start with two things. One, measure those metal shelves in your first picture, get some plastic storage totes that fit them, put some thought into logical groupings, and label all the stuff in there. It looks like you have some messy shelves to the left of your bikes, so do the same thing there with some bigger storage bins. Second, everything off your workspace into a home either on those shelves or on the wall behind your work bench.

No one can tell you exactly what to do with your stuff, since it's specific to what stuff you have and what your space looks like, but I think a little thought, some bins, and a sharpie will go a long way here.
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Careful what you ask for. If you get your shop organized, it's going to want better pay, shorter hours and no work on weekends.
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Originally Posted by bblair
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Or should I get something like this? I don't need to roll it around, but lots of room for cassette tools, cone wrenches and chain tools.
I have a smaller version of that as my bike table. Plywood top Made a back as a tool board and partial side for more tools, lubes, etc and to keep tools from falling off. Fastened 1/2 dowels to the front corners so I can lean my bike against it without worrying about the paint.

Mine is on the cheap side and is not a sturdy work platform. For that I use my big bench.
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Originally Posted by bblair
That rolling cabinet was just an example, not one I am looking to purchase. Some of those are crazy expensive.
While it’s quite possible to put $7000 into a single rolling tool chest, it’s also quite possible to get something very useful for $100 on Craigslist, sometimes even still looking nice.

The main goal is to have a labelled home with clear boundaries for everything. Toolboxes are a common one, but everything from margarine tubs to shoeboxes can accomplish this.
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Maybe this should be a winter project.

I think I will go with both. Pegboard behind my workbench for frequently used stuff like hammers, screw drivers, wrenches. Tool box with drawers for smaller bike related stuff like chain tools, spoke wrench, cassette tool.

I should probably also toss a lot of stuff.
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After living in the house for 18 years I finally got my **** together and put my shop together, collecting all the assorted tools from 4 or 5 work boxes. I had forgotten all the stuff I had, like multiple caulk guns, etc.... I was given with the house about 100 peg board holders then purchased additional, plus the pegboard. It's all well organkzed and I mostly keep it that way. My work bench had been a 4x3 butcher block table that I simply used as the base for 9 ft. of finish grade 3/4 ply as a top. Plus additional LED lighting so I can see. It was worth it.
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I bought a used optical table to use as a workbench. I've had no regrets at the price point. Great for fixturing jigs or work pieces (all the holes are 1/8-20 threaded), you can melt metal on it, spill acid on it, easy to clean.

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