Gaz_

Hi all.

I have a 1987 Peugeot Etoile. It's a hle Mangaloy frame, 12 speed Sachs Huret gearing, I've upgraded the weinman brakes to tektro r359s.

Here's a picture. I bought it for £100, probably a little costly, but it was lockdown and I was bored. It's my first road bike, it might be a little small for me, but again, it's all abit new to me.


I love the colour scheme. It's immense.

So, I'm intrigued by this upgrade.




https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225578456216

Obviously, it's a higher spec bike. It's got Reynolds 653* tubing, etc etc etc.

My question is. How much better. I think I could get £100 for mine, so would this be £180 better than my existing?? Do I really need it? And can we all be honest, mine looks better right?

Thanks for any convincing either way!

*Edited... I got the frame tube wrong, cheers billytwosheds

billytwosheds 

I would expect the bike from the fleabay listing to be quite a departure from your current Pug.

The 653 frame (not "651") is a high end tube set. And the Shimano 600 kit is solid. The size sounds like it would be better for you, and the geometry would mean it's an energetic rider.

Not sure what your reason for wanting to get a new bike, but that's not something I'll argue with.

If the new bike is in good shape, as it appears -- though it will likely need consumables like cables/housing and maybe rubber, it seems like a good option.

tiger1964 

Of course, the answer is: both.

I like how the two have mirror-image color schemes.

Gaz_

Sadly, unlike Billy I only have one shed... I wonder though. I tend to go out on my trek mountain bike, because I find it comfier, which I've always put down to the face it's a mountain bike rather than a lean in road bike. But could that be the frame being too small?

I'm 5-11, and I think my etoile is a 54cm frame.

DanseMacabre

5-11 is about 180cm I assume? That would make a 56 more appropriate, unless you have relative short legs.

Please be aware that not every 54cm is the same. Classic bikes are measured at the seat tube, with Peugeot probably center-top, which makes it 53 center-center. And that sizing is really about how high or low the handlebar can go, thus your drop.

A more important sizing (to me ) is the top tube. Often a 53 bike also has a top tube of 53cm, but it could be anywhere between 52 or 57 I would think. And you can play a bit with a longer or shorter stem, but that will affect the handling. And in adjusting a bike geometry, 1 cm is a lot, 3cm is really a lot.

The Ultima looks to be 56 or 57? I would guess, simply from the photo, that it might be a better fit. If it has a 60 cm seattube, I think it might be too large, unless you have relative long legs. At a size of 60cm, top tubes stay at some kind of maximum length.
You could take a riding photo of you on your current bike. Some people can that way easily see if it fits or not.

billytwosheds 

Gaz_ At 5'11 the Pug you have is probably a several cm too small for you. I see a lot of seatpost and the bars tilted back, probably as a way to make it manageable.

The fleabay frame lists as a 58cm seat tube with a 56cm top tube. My guess is that it would fit you, but you won't know how it feels until you try it. It's a nice bike for sure, and I doubt you would have trouble moving it along if you didn't like it.

Gaz_

Incredible eyes, I have done both of those things to make it more comfortable to ride! It's starting to look like I should go to London and try it I think.

1simplexnut 

Do it !!! The ride will be a revelation !
Thats my opinion only
Looks like the size will suit better than the Etoile too.