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Are car helmets next?
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My first truly scary crash happened in 1967. I hit a steel deck bridge at 30+mph on a rainy afternoon. First thing I knew I was sliding down the span on my shoulder. Walked back to find my bike untouched under the front axle of a tractor trailer, who's skilled driver helped me retrieve it, and move off to the side. Thankfully, I get to remember because toe clips and straps release in crashes. Anyway, no seat belt for me.
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Might have kept Cav' from going over the bars and breaking his collar bone!
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Be "one" with your bike @ 48mph. Yeah, baby, that'll do it. One big twisted pile of wreckage.
Bindings releasing on snow skis is a good thing. I suspect being ejected off a bike's tumbling and twisting wreckage during a bad spill would similarly be preferable.
Been in one nasty road-rash type fall while cycling. And I'm happy the bike went one direction while I was left to cope without it. Made things much simpler.
Bindings releasing on snow skis is a good thing. I suspect being ejected off a bike's tumbling and twisting wreckage during a bad spill would similarly be preferable.
Been in one nasty road-rash type fall while cycling. And I'm happy the bike went one direction while I was left to cope without it. Made things much simpler.
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On the other hand, I've kept myself attached to the bike as best I can with hands and feet during crashes and come out of it relatively unscathed. Of course I wasn't 48 mph, more like 20 - 25 mph. By keeping ones hands on the bars initially, it does keep one from stretching out ones arms to break the fall. Which is entirely what Mark C. did that was wrong and got him the broke collarbone. But in his defense that is a instinctive reaction.
However I wouldn't use the seat belt. At least not until there is some overwhelming data that shows it helps.
However I wouldn't use the seat belt. At least not until there is some overwhelming data that shows it helps.
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I love how people throw this out, as if it's the most absurd thing ever. You've obviously never tracked a car. DOT approved helmets are required pretty much on every single track. All the amateur and pro drivers are wearing helmets as part of their standard safety gear.
And talk to anyone familiar with automobile injuries and helmets would indeed be a smart move. Occupants frequently smash their heads into each other in collisions. Side air bags help address head injuries caused by hitting the door frame, but not the person next to you.
One could argue, "If you had half a brain, you'd wear a helmet in your car."
And talk to anyone familiar with automobile injuries and helmets would indeed be a smart move. Occupants frequently smash their heads into each other in collisions. Side air bags help address head injuries caused by hitting the door frame, but not the person next to you.
One could argue, "If you had half a brain, you'd wear a helmet in your car."
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Motorcycle air bags have been in development for years and are available on the consumer market now. Pretty damn smart if you ask me.
There's a pretty strong argument that air bags would be a welcome safety feature in downhill and "big air" events like Redbull Rampage. Ride to live another day!
There's a pretty strong argument that air bags would be a welcome safety feature in downhill and "big air" events like Redbull Rampage. Ride to live another day!
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Another useless gimmick which only prevents a rider from riding out of the saddle and standing on the pedals and does nothing for safety. I find the ability to ride out of the saddle absolutely essential. to cycling.
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To answer your question: yes, when on the track, but no when on public roads. But again, the argument in favor of helmets for auto occupants has some merit.
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Is the "argument" for wearing a helmet when an occupant in a vehicle on a public road the same one as recommending wearing a flame proof suit when an occupant in a vehicle on a public road? Is the "argument" that whatever is good for the track is good for the public too, or is it a "Safety First!" mantra merits ignoring intelligent risk management?
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Joke?
Is this a joke? My first thought was that it is, but discussion makes me wonder.
Strapping yourself into a car that weighs 10-20x your body weight makes sense; you don't go bouncing about the car as much in a crash. Strapping yourself to a bike that weighs about 1/10th your body weight, or more to the point, strapping a bike to yourself, seems ludicrous. The bike is more likely to injure you than protect you as you slam into whatever hard object awaits... it's one reason I use loose toe clips. I want my feet free so I can use instinctive reactions to limit damage to my body as I fall or crash.
Strapping yourself into a car that weighs 10-20x your body weight makes sense; you don't go bouncing about the car as much in a crash. Strapping yourself to a bike that weighs about 1/10th your body weight, or more to the point, strapping a bike to yourself, seems ludicrous. The bike is more likely to injure you than protect you as you slam into whatever hard object awaits... it's one reason I use loose toe clips. I want my feet free so I can use instinctive reactions to limit damage to my body as I fall or crash.
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It's a joke, but people here are so freakin' touchy over everything. I would recommend that they chill out and go for a bike ride, but isn't this a bike forum -- apparently cycling does no good for calming people down. Or maybe they only cycle on the internet![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
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The OP was playing a prank by just showing the box without it's complete packaging or the rest of the story.
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The OP was playing a prank by just showing the box without it's complete packaging or the rest of the story.
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A humorless poster attempted to turn this into the everlasting gobstopper thread.
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