Waxing Chain Just Trend or usefull?
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As an apparent Luddite, I am using this:
Besides one sparing drop per link, back peddling 15 times and then running over the cogs, wiping any excess and letting it dry over night, I’m relatively happy. If I had to wax my chain every 300 miles, it would be every week, which is nu bueno for a lazy person.
Besides one sparing drop per link, back peddling 15 times and then running over the cogs, wiping any excess and letting it dry over night, I’m relatively happy. If I had to wax my chain every 300 miles, it would be every week, which is nu bueno for a lazy person.
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Bike chains and women are to be kept in the same condition.
Waxed and clean.
Too much?
Waxed and clean.
Too much?
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FWIW: I had a chain that I thought was worn out this spring after a particularly nasty gravel ride. I went to the bike shop, they measured it at 0.6% wear (9sp) and suggested I see if I could get a little more use out of it. I figured I wouldn't be out much to put some canning wax in a jar and give wax a shot. I recall joking with the mechanic that I would see if I could get 2,000 more miles out of the chain before replacing it. I'm at 1,226 miles since then, still working at least as well as it was in April. I think I'll get the 2,000 miles that the mechanic laughed at.
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Very possibly. TBH I'm planning on riding this bike about another 3-5,000 miles before I replace it, so that doesn't bother me much. Cassette and chainrings look pretty good to me, though.
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The last three weeks of cyclocross has given me a mixed appreciation of chain waxing. Each of them has downpours making them incredibly wet and muddy; the first week seized up a outboard shimano BB that was only 6 months old, the second week required me to pull the seals from my oldest's front king hub and regrease them, and yesterday I had to pour water out of all our rims and the bearings on my white industries front hub is definitely washed out and will require repacking. The waxed chains have gotten rusty by the time I got home each time but are easy to wipe off with no greasy mess, the cassettes are staying clean and don't require any effort and nothing is getting clogged with mud. I'm not certain any chain lube would hold up better to the wet, mud and drive through down pours, but the chain stays silent the whole time. Only negative is the extra time it takes to rewax the chains each time.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
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How is riding a bike in the mud supposed to be "fun"? I would love to try cyclocross if you can guarantee me a dry course.
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The last three weeks of cyclocross has given me a mixed appreciation of chain waxing. Each of them has downpours making them incredibly wet and muddy; the first week seized up a outboard shimano BB that was only 6 months old, the second week required me to pull the seals from my oldest's front king hub and regrease them, and yesterday I had to pour water out of all our rims and the bearings on my white industries front hub is definitely washed out and will require repacking. The waxed chains have gotten rusty by the time I got home each time but are easy to wipe off with no greasy mess, the cassettes are staying clean and don't require any effort and nothing is getting clogged with mud. I'm not certain any chain lube would hold up better to the wet, mud and drive through down pours, but the chain stays silent the whole time. Only negative is the extra time it takes to rewax the chains each time.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
It also backs up my experience with sealed BB bearings in those conditions - there was a thread a little while ago where I was being lectured that they should last for 40k miles with regular pressure washing.
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I would much rather be dealing with wax than oil when wet mud is involved.
It also backs up my experience with sealed BB bearings in those conditions - there was a thread a little while ago where I was being lectured that they should last for 40k miles with regular pressure washing.
It also backs up my experience with sealed BB bearings in those conditions - there was a thread a little while ago where I was being lectured that they should last for 40k miles with regular pressure washing.
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The last three weeks of cyclocross has given me a mixed appreciation of chain waxing. Each of them has downpours making them incredibly wet and muddy; the first week seized up a outboard shimano BB that was only 6 months old, the second week required me to pull the seals from my oldest's front king hub and regrease them, and yesterday I had to pour water out of all our rims and the bearings on my white industries front hub is definitely washed out and will require repacking. The waxed chains have gotten rusty by the time I got home each time but are easy to wipe off with no greasy mess, the cassettes are staying clean and don't require any effort and nothing is getting clogged with mud. I'm not certain any chain lube would hold up better to the wet, mud and drive through down pours, but the chain stays silent the whole time. Only negative is the extra time it takes to rewax the chains each time.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
For clarity of the level of mess the wax has been dealing with, one of the days was slightly less muddy than this, and another was worse, this is probably the average of how its been.
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If I had a butler to clean the bike/shoes/clothes/car I'd do another mud race maybe. There were some that I thought for sure I'd be skipping but it got cold the night before and the muddy ground froze solid. Race time temp was 25° F so it was game-on! Frozen ground is so fast! Just watch out for frozen puddles.
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This statement makes me think you're not going to like cyclocross. It's a bit like saying "I don't like the taste of alcohol. Can you let me try some scotch that doesn't taste like alcohol?"
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That's fair. The bottom line is that I work in mud, I want to play clean. I can understand if someone works in a clean environment wanting to play in the mud.
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FWIW, I'm a farmer and live in a swamp. I understand about working in mud. For many of us, cyclocross is more like "playing bike" the way we did when we were kids.There's also the "bike party" atmosphere, and in the final laps if you aren't a serious contender, there are beer and bacon handups, cheerleaders, hecklers, and other things you wouldn't see at a crit or road race.
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I've been waxing chains for over 40 years now, using at least a 2 chain rotation. Makes the cassette and chainrings last much longer. Can get about 5000 miles for each chain, but then again I don't play around in the mud....
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If you follow the usual internet advice hot waxing becomes a huge faff. You can however hot wax a new chain straight from the package and then switch over to drip wax when the initial application is gone. 5 - 10% the faff, 90% - 100% the result.
If your roads are salted during winter wax wont do. Your chain will rust in no time.
Imo, chains are not that expensive. Its hardly worth it spending lots of time, money and effort to make them last forever.
If your roads are salted during winter wax wont do. Your chain will rust in no time.
Imo, chains are not that expensive. Its hardly worth it spending lots of time, money and effort to make them last forever.
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I would much rather be dealing with wax than oil when wet mud is involved.
It also backs up my experience with sealed BB bearings in those conditions - there was a thread a little while ago where I was being lectured that they should last for 40k miles with regular pressure washing.
It also backs up my experience with sealed BB bearings in those conditions - there was a thread a little while ago where I was being lectured that they should last for 40k miles with regular pressure washing.
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I race CX and we usually have a few sloppy mud fests like this each year. Between the racing and driving to/from the races in downpours with my bikes on the roof, I typically end up replacing my "sealed cartridge bearings" in my BB and hubs at the end of every season. A few years ago we had 3 mud races in a row to start the season and I had to replace my BB bearings mid-way through the season due to my crank sounding/feeling like a coffee grinder.
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Cartridge bearings are relatively cheap and easy to replace.
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FWIW, I'm a farmer and live in a swamp. I understand about working in mud. For many of us, cyclocross is more like "playing bike" the way we did when we were kids.There's also the "bike party" atmosphere, and in the final laps if you aren't a serious contender, there are beer and bacon handups, cheerleaders, hecklers, and other things you wouldn't see at a crit or road race.
That said, there's a fine line between a slick track that is still ridable, and a tractor pull where the only way around the track is to carry your bike and run through ankle deep mud. Having participated in a few of those tractor pull types of races, I'm a bit more selective these days.
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Well said. Playing bike is exactly what it is. Mud usually makes things more fun.
That said, there's a fine line between a slick track that is still ridable, and a tractor pull where the only way around the track is to carry your bike and run through ankle deep mud. Having participated in a few of those tractor pull types of races, I'm a bit more selective these days.
That said, there's a fine line between a slick track that is still ridable, and a tractor pull where the only way around the track is to carry your bike and run through ankle deep mud. Having participated in a few of those tractor pull types of races, I'm a bit more selective these days.
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