Cross Training w/ Kayaking?
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No sir. I would assume much the same. I Just meant that the pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black.
Personally, I think yoga is excellent to pair with cycling. I also ride different bikes as MTB riding is a bit different from a light road bike, but do complement each other. I also own about 5 kayaks but just consider them extra fun more than anything to help train for fitness. Basically, anything you like to do that is physically challenging is the way to go. Do it because you love it and you will do more of it, than if you do it because you need to.
Personally, I think yoga is excellent to pair with cycling. I also ride different bikes as MTB riding is a bit different from a light road bike, but do complement each other. I also own about 5 kayaks but just consider them extra fun more than anything to help train for fitness. Basically, anything you like to do that is physically challenging is the way to go. Do it because you love it and you will do more of it, than if you do it because you need to.
I mostly enjoy all the above (weights less but important past 30yo, especially after 40 and beyond) so its a way to enjoy what I have to do and make me look forward to it instead of begrudgingly walk the neighborhood for 2+ hours a day like I did for so many years of gloom. It runs in my family unfortunately a few relatives are still doing the latter into their old age running around in circles quite literally trying to control their sugars "because they have to" without any pleasure behind the exercise like I used to out of sheer obligation and fear for what's coming if they don't. Just walking isn't that much of a burn so you still have to starve yourself and constantly cope with the never ending ravenousness from the moment you wake up until you fall asleep. Thinking how my life used to be before cycling and kayaking I feel sorry for them.
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Bike in early summer/fall
standup paddleboard during summer.
Snowboard during winter/spring.
lift weights and yoga year round.
I don't think I could handle another physically active hobby.
standup paddleboard during summer.
Snowboard during winter/spring.
lift weights and yoga year round.
I don't think I could handle another physically active hobby.
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I loved sea kayaking here around the Chesapeake Bay and great upper body and leg cross training - until I completely tore my rotator cuff and had after surgery my paddling is relegated to low angle, tourist style paddling. Still fun but not much training value.
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The one "bad" thing about Stellar boats is they are designed to go fast to the detriment of other things so they don't handle that great. They don't track well, require a skeg or rudder to keep you in place otherwise they squiggle this way and that are almost impossible to control. And when you use these devices you lose out on the boat's potential maneuverability no matter how you adjust the skeg. I just keep my skeg down and forget about it taking a long time to take turns. It's basically a very fast recreational boat but not for big waters. To do any better you have to pay WAY more money like Romany or P&H to have that mature handling that is both crisp and responsive when you want to (on edge) yet track well when upright. Unfortunately none of them are as light or easy to carry and if you want the lightweight versions you're looking north of $6,000.
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The S14 G2 is sublime. Not that tippy but very, very fast can keep up with or easily pass longer boats especially plastic ones like the P&H Virgo etc. Can get up to 6.2-6.3mph in a straight line according to Garmin or Strava and not that big or long so easy to store and carry. Any shorter you lose out, I also have an S12 that doesn't feel that fast and it actually feels a little more tippy despite being an inch wider. The S16 is faster I tried it but feels extremely tippy. As always go out of your way to try before you buy as everyone is different.
The one "bad" thing about Stellar boats is they are designed to go fast to the detriment of other things so they don't handle that great. They don't track well, require a skeg or rudder to keep you in place otherwise they squiggle this way and that are almost impossible to control. And when you use these devices you lose out on the boat's potential maneuverability no matter how you adjust the skeg. I just keep my skeg down and forget about it taking a long time to take turns. It's basically a very fast recreational boat but not for big waters. To do any better you have to pay WAY more money like Romany or P&H to have that mature handling that is both crisp and responsive when you want to (on edge) yet track well when upright. Unfortunately none of them are as light or easy to carry and if you want the lightweight versions you're looking north of $6,000.
The one "bad" thing about Stellar boats is they are designed to go fast to the detriment of other things so they don't handle that great. They don't track well, require a skeg or rudder to keep you in place otherwise they squiggle this way and that are almost impossible to control. And when you use these devices you lose out on the boat's potential maneuverability no matter how you adjust the skeg. I just keep my skeg down and forget about it taking a long time to take turns. It's basically a very fast recreational boat but not for big waters. To do any better you have to pay WAY more money like Romany or P&H to have that mature handling that is both crisp and responsive when you want to (on edge) yet track well when upright. Unfortunately none of them are as light or easy to carry and if you want the lightweight versions you're looking north of $6,000.
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The S14 G2 is sublime. Not that tippy but very, very fast can keep up with or easily pass longer boats especially plastic ones like the P&H Virgo etc. Can get up to 6.2-6.3mph in a straight line according to Garmin or Strava and not that big or long so easy to store and carry. Any shorter you lose out, I also have an S12 that doesn't feel that fast and it actually feels a little more tippy despite being an inch wider. The S16 is faster I tried it but feels extremely tippy. As always go out of your way to try before you buy as everyone is different.
The one "bad" thing about Stellar boats is they are designed to go fast to the detriment of other things so they don't handle that great. They don't track well, require a skeg or rudder to keep you in place otherwise they squiggle this way and that are almost impossible to control. And when you use these devices you lose out on the boat's potential maneuverability no matter how you adjust the skeg. I just keep my skeg down and forget about it taking a long time to take turns. It's basically a very fast recreational boat but not for big waters. To do any better you have to pay WAY more money like Romany or P&H to have that mature handling that is both crisp and responsive when you want to (on edge) yet track well when upright. Unfortunately none of them are as light or easy to carry and if you want the lightweight versions you're looking north of $6,000.
The one "bad" thing about Stellar boats is they are designed to go fast to the detriment of other things so they don't handle that great. They don't track well, require a skeg or rudder to keep you in place otherwise they squiggle this way and that are almost impossible to control. And when you use these devices you lose out on the boat's potential maneuverability no matter how you adjust the skeg. I just keep my skeg down and forget about it taking a long time to take turns. It's basically a very fast recreational boat but not for big waters. To do any better you have to pay WAY more money like Romany or P&H to have that mature handling that is both crisp and responsive when you want to (on edge) yet track well when upright. Unfortunately none of them are as light or easy to carry and if you want the lightweight versions you're looking north of $6,000.
I paddled, and spent many hours in lessons, and it was roughly 5 years, before purchasing my first boats, tried everything I could fit in, before deciding on the QCC 700X, and Seda Ikuma. My primary goal is fitness, and covering miles, if I want maneuverability, or to play around, I’ll jump in my neighbors white water kayak.
Thanks for the info on the Stellars, still want to try one. Below is my latest acquisition.
Tim
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check out turnpoint boat works petrel play..... Nick Shade design (you can also make one with a CLS stitch and glue kit) https://www.turningpointboatworks.com/the-petrel-play
I would never build my own. I don't have the time or inclination. In every field there is the buy vs build debate. I am a very "buy" kind of guy for me time is money.
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Thanks for the info, would never consider a boat over 16ft without a rudder or skeg, as I do live on big water, and rough and windy is quite common. I’ve paddled boats with neither device, and can track with them just fine, to me just less enjoyable over a 4 to five hour paddle especially with any wind over 10kts, quite common on my lake.
I paddled, and spent many hours in lessons, and it was roughly 5 years, before purchasing my first boats, tried everything I could fit in, before deciding on the QCC 700X, and Seda Ikuma. My primary goal is fitness, and covering miles, if I want maneuverability, or to play around, I’ll jump in my neighbors white water kayak.
Thanks for the info on the Stellars, still want to try one. Below is my latest acquisition.
Tim
I paddled, and spent many hours in lessons, and it was roughly 5 years, before purchasing my first boats, tried everything I could fit in, before deciding on the QCC 700X, and Seda Ikuma. My primary goal is fitness, and covering miles, if I want maneuverability, or to play around, I’ll jump in my neighbors white water kayak.
Thanks for the info on the Stellars, still want to try one. Below is my latest acquisition.
Tim
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I have a single and tandem - both bicycle and kayak.
The kayaks were great in flatwater conditions, Elkhorn Slough = a major highlight for many years.
Kayaking (elkhornslough.org)
Cross training mentally for another great outdoor activity.
I live on a mountain now, no kayaking for a while, just a good few hikes. .
The kayaks were great in flatwater conditions, Elkhorn Slough = a major highlight for many years.
Kayaking (elkhornslough.org)
Cross training mentally for another great outdoor activity.
I live on a mountain now, no kayaking for a while, just a good few hikes. .
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Better choice would be rowing to increase strength of the torso muscles. Either a rowing machine or a boat out on the water depending on your resources. I had a rowing scull that was great but developing severe Dupuytren's later in life I needed to stop and sold the boat. Now my alternate activity is trail running which strengthens back and foot muscles.