Mirror, thoughts and recommendations
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Mirror, thoughts and recommendations
My cycling is mostly commuter and Ive just grown to old and stiff to comfortably turn my head to be able to see what is coming from behind me when I want to migrate to the middle of the road to do a turn or just simply see how close the cars are behind me, and or the type of car. I need a mirror. Fairly simple device so I purchased a generic type form ebay that bolted to the handlebars and looked the goods. Yet the mirror was not flat/of great quality and having it setup with angle of incidences/reflection at ~ 45 degrees(which is about the only way to setup it up on a bike) produced very blurred images that were basically useless.
My local bike shops dont offer much, bar end mirrors(dont think they'd work for me having to look even lower, as well as I have bar end shifters) or mirrors that tie on with rubber straps(they have to be kidding) no way they wont vibrate badly or slip out of adjustment.
Helmet mirrors, they look fiddly and risk of damage every time one puts their helmet somewhere. Rather something that was just bolted to the handlebars and a low care item. Solid metal would be fine, + a true optically flat surface. Where can I get such a mirror? (and dislike convex, too hard to really figure out how far exactly they are behind or how close they are to my side of the road)
Any other suggestions, thoughts. Thankyou.
My local bike shops dont offer much, bar end mirrors(dont think they'd work for me having to look even lower, as well as I have bar end shifters) or mirrors that tie on with rubber straps(they have to be kidding) no way they wont vibrate badly or slip out of adjustment.
Helmet mirrors, they look fiddly and risk of damage every time one puts their helmet somewhere. Rather something that was just bolted to the handlebars and a low care item. Solid metal would be fine, + a true optically flat surface. Where can I get such a mirror? (and dislike convex, too hard to really figure out how far exactly they are behind or how close they are to my side of the road)
Any other suggestions, thoughts. Thankyou.
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I've tried many and settled on helmet mount because it allows me to easily sweep my field of view as needed. Yes it gets bumped out of place when stowing the helmet, but it pushes back easily enough. I used glasses mount for a while; problem is if glasses get foggy or rain covered, removing glasses means no mirror.
I have friends who use the bar-end type for drop bars like this https://www.ebay.com/p/5011034059?iid=380891890845
I tried that but found it had limited field of view. I guess that's why some are convex.
I have friends who use the bar-end type for drop bars like this https://www.ebay.com/p/5011034059?iid=380891890845
I tried that but found it had limited field of view. I guess that's why some are convex.
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I bought some mirror off Amazon, which fits into the end of a handlebar .... even drop bars(which is how I have it mounted.) (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Not sure if the same mirror is even available, but there are a million copies--I am sure this mirror copied some other.
Key points---convex lens, multiple hinges, individual joints can be tightened. I can put it in place and it stays, ans when I park, I can fold it in out of the way.
Key points---convex lens, multiple hinges, individual joints can be tightened. I can put it in place and it stays, ans when I park, I can fold it in out of the way.
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I've been using a glasses mounted Take-A-Look Mirror for over 25 years. It's metal and brass. If you don't wear glasses, you could start wearing safety glasses. Or I think some people mount them to their helmets.
On my glasses, at least, I merely have to slightly twist the mirror into place at the beginning of my ride and it stays put, even after 10 years of use on the current one. The previous one is at least 25 years old and I keep it in the shed with the bikes for quick, impromptu rides.
On my glasses, at least, I merely have to slightly twist the mirror into place at the beginning of my ride and it stays put, even after 10 years of use on the current one. The previous one is at least 25 years old and I keep it in the shed with the bikes for quick, impromptu rides.
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I've tried helmet mount and glasses mount, could never get them aligned right and if I did I soon broke them or knocked them out of alignment. But many have success with them.
I settled on Sprintech bar end mirrors that you can get on Amazon for under $20. Glancing down works fine, they last a long time, easy to adjust. and don't really stick out - I'm not breaking them (I have them on 2 bikes).
None of these come even close to what you are used to in a car and none of them replace the need to still look before you move/turn left, but definitely a safety increase.
I settled on Sprintech bar end mirrors that you can get on Amazon for under $20. Glancing down works fine, they last a long time, easy to adjust. and don't really stick out - I'm not breaking them (I have them on 2 bikes).
None of these come even close to what you are used to in a car and none of them replace the need to still look before you move/turn left, but definitely a safety increase.
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I use a Hafny bar-end mirror. Very good optics, easy to install and mine never gets out of position, despite me hitting it once in a great while with my knee.
With that said, the best bike accessory purchase I ever made has been my Varia rear light/radar unit. Working with my Garmin Edge, it detects and displays on the Garmin’s screen all vehicles (and bikes) that are approaching me from behind. I never ride without it.
The combination of the Hafny & Varia products give me great piece of mind and I consider both of them money well spent.
With that said, the best bike accessory purchase I ever made has been my Varia rear light/radar unit. Working with my Garmin Edge, it detects and displays on the Garmin’s screen all vehicles (and bikes) that are approaching me from behind. I never ride without it.
The combination of the Hafny & Varia products give me great piece of mind and I consider both of them money well spent.
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I use a Hafny bar-end mirror. Very good optics, easy to install and mine never gets out of position, despite me hitting it once in a great while with my knee.
With that said, the best bike accessory purchase I ever made has been my Varia rear light/radar unit. Working with my Garmin Edge, it detects and displays on the Garmin’s screen all vehicles (and bikes) that are approaching me from behind. I never ride without it.
The combination of the Hafny & Varia products give me great piece of mind and I consider both of them money well spent.
With that said, the best bike accessory purchase I ever made has been my Varia rear light/radar unit. Working with my Garmin Edge, it detects and displays on the Garmin’s screen all vehicles (and bikes) that are approaching me from behind. I never ride without it.
The combination of the Hafny & Varia products give me great piece of mind and I consider both of them money well spent.
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Go to the BikeINN website, I got mine from the warehouse in Spain. They really have a million parts.
I've been using bar mirrors that are like the ones on light motorcycles. They have an 8 mm shaft, so very steady as long as the pivot is still tight.
I did have to DIY fiddle a bracket from old shifter mounts.
They are absolutely perfect for me to see a long way back on the highway. Still OK in the city, but I use it less.
I've been using bar mirrors that are like the ones on light motorcycles. They have an 8 mm shaft, so very steady as long as the pivot is still tight.
I did have to DIY fiddle a bracket from old shifter mounts.
They are absolutely perfect for me to see a long way back on the highway. Still OK in the city, but I use it less.
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The helmet mount mirror is the main reason I wear a helmet even for short rides. I feel blind without my helmet mirror. I hang my helmet on a coat hook by the door and it rarely gets pushed out of alignment, but it's no big deal to line it up at the start of each ride. Been using the same one for years and just move it to a new helmet when needed. Cheap and effective for situational awareness.
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This - I use a Sprintech convex mirror on the left bar-end in combination with a Varia. I "check my six" regularly in any case, but the Varia alerts me that something is approaching, the mirror enables me to see what it is (18-wheeler vs car vs motorcycle etc) and - more importantly - is it pulling out to give me space. IMO, a rear-view and Varia are a very effective combination.
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- Knowing what is coming behind you is of little value. Ride predictably and visibly and traffic will pass. Using a mirror to notice there could be an issue when a car is mere feet behind you is likely not helpful.
- Use a Garmin Varia radar with included light. The light patter changes when cars approach, to help them notice you and the radar displays the vehicle on your phone or gps and gives a visual so you can tell how fast the car is approaching, as well as how many are behind you at any given time.
How early should a vehicle move over for you to not be concerned? Not trying to argue, but if it hasnt moved over 100' before passing...then what? Do you bail into the grass along the road? Do you swerve into the road further to be seen? I am unsure why a mirror to confirm a vehicle has moved over is beneficial when many cars dont really move over before probably 30' or so, based on what I see when riding and driving.
Anyways, a couple old guys I know and rode with for years have eyeglass mirrors and love em. Thats probably the way to go since you use bar end shifters.
- Use a Garmin Varia radar with included light. The light patter changes when cars approach, to help them notice you and the radar displays the vehicle on your phone or gps and gives a visual so you can tell how fast the car is approaching, as well as how many are behind you at any given time.
How early should a vehicle move over for you to not be concerned? Not trying to argue, but if it hasnt moved over 100' before passing...then what? Do you bail into the grass along the road? Do you swerve into the road further to be seen? I am unsure why a mirror to confirm a vehicle has moved over is beneficial when many cars dont really move over before probably 30' or so, based on what I see when riding and driving.
Anyways, a couple old guys I know and rode with for years have eyeglass mirrors and love em. Thats probably the way to go since you use bar end shifters.
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OP says he uses bar end shifters.
7 different posters suggest a bar end plug style mirror.
Classic BF thread.
7 different posters suggest a bar end plug style mirror.
Classic BF thread.
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Hafny Handlebar Bike Mirror, HD,Blast-resistant, Glass Lens, HF-MR095 (Anti-glare left)
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I use a helmet mounted mirror and won't go for a ride without. If it gets knocked out of alignment off the bike, a quick adjust as I start a ride will make it better. After a long tour, I even find myself lifting my eyes up and to the left as I'm walking down the sidewalk and then quietly chuckle at my muscle memory. IMHO attaching a mirror to the handlebar is like connecting the mirrors in you car to your steering wheel.
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Most of the mirrors I have are ones I've been using for many years. I hadn't realized that nearly all drop bar compatible mirrors currently on the market mount in the bar end, which on OP's bike is occupied by the shifter. There used to be a good mirror whose mount wrapped around the brake hood and secured with velcro - I currently use this on two of my bikes that use drop-bar levers, but it doesn't seem to be available anymore on the open market.
Looking online, the Zefal Spy might work. Yes, it uses a rubber strap mount, but it looks like the strap might cinch tight enough on the bars to not move / vibrate as much. I haven't used one, though.
I've broken the glass out of several mirrors due to minor crashes and the bike falling over on the mirror side. I just bought a 50 pack of 3" nominal round mirror glass (actually 2 7/8" - perfect replacement size for many models) to repair past, current, and future broken mirrors.
Looking online, the Zefal Spy might work. Yes, it uses a rubber strap mount, but it looks like the strap might cinch tight enough on the bars to not move / vibrate as much. I haven't used one, though.
I've broken the glass out of several mirrors due to minor crashes and the bike falling over on the mirror side. I just bought a 50 pack of 3" nominal round mirror glass (actually 2 7/8" - perfect replacement size for many models) to repair past, current, and future broken mirrors.
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Blackburn helmet mirror. The mount to helmet isn't really secure enough, so I add my own glue. I bring a spare on tour, just in case. I much prefer helmet or glasses mirrors so that one can scan the area behind.
Racers don't use mirrors because the deal is that safety is the responsibility of the rider following. Thus those recreational riders who fancy themselves racer boys or girls also seldom use mirrors. The issue is that with large metal objects instead of bicycles behind one, it doesn't matter whose responsibility it is, you're just as dead or injured either way.
Racers don't use mirrors because the deal is that safety is the responsibility of the rider following. Thus those recreational riders who fancy themselves racer boys or girls also seldom use mirrors. The issue is that with large metal objects instead of bicycles behind one, it doesn't matter whose responsibility it is, you're just as dead or injured either way.
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Radar?? LOL. What a farce. Trucks see me a quarter mile back. All 300 of them, most rides.
Are you going to hog the lane with THESE behind you?? LOL. One day they came along every hour. And this is far from the widest loads.
Are you going to hog the lane with THESE behind you?? LOL. One day they came along every hour. And this is far from the widest loads.
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This post, like so many of your posts, makes no sense.
I have found the radar to be invaluable on gravel since I often want to ride on good lines which means I am not on the right shoulder. I cant easily hear vehicles approaching due to wind and gravel noise, so the radar picks up vehicles from 450' away and I am able to make my way to the right shoulder for the vehicle to pass without inconveniencing them.
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Thanks for the other helmet recommendations, I havent tried them. One concern is if one glues them into place how do you do a quick adjustment to avoid intense reflections, like when the sun is directly behind you?
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Using a mirror to notice there could be an issue when a car is mere feet behind you is likely not helpful.
- Use a Garmin Varia radar with included light. The light patter changes when cars approach, to help them notice you and the radar displays the vehicle on your phone or gps and gives a visual so you can tell how fast the car is approaching, as well as how many are behind you at any given time.
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"A helmet won't save your life, a rear view mirror will." - Heinz Stücke
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_St%C3%BCcke
I didn't really want to agree with Herr Stucke, but he's ridden more in more different situations than me. In fact, more than everybody on this thread put together.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinz_St%C3%BCcke
I didn't really want to agree with Herr Stucke, but he's ridden more in more different situations than me. In fact, more than everybody on this thread put together.
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This had been my mirror since 2017.