How do you steer?
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It is subtle and that’s why most people don’t realise they are doing it. But if you watch a total beginner learning to ride a bike you can see that they have to consciously learn to counter steer before they can “balance” and actually ride at all. Usually they wobble around over and under correcting until they eventually figure it out in their mind.
I agree on a motorbike the forces are much higher so it may initially require some conscious effort to learn how counter steer affects your ability to lean a heavy bike into a turn. It makes sense to teach that on a motorbike training course, but it is not really necessary for bike riders on 8 kg road bikes.
I agree on a motorbike the forces are much higher so it may initially require some conscious effort to learn how counter steer affects your ability to lean a heavy bike into a turn. It makes sense to teach that on a motorbike training course, but it is not really necessary for bike riders on 8 kg road bikes.
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Saw this guy while I was touring out west. He knew how to steer steers.
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depends if I'm riding left handed or right handed that day
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Those steers look awfully 'entire' to this city slicker ...
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It made me a bit sad to think that they were destined to end up on the dinner table. There is a lot of ranching in the area. I must have missed a relatively recent cattle drive because the highway through town (Wise River, MT) had a lot of cow pie remnants on it.
Interestingly, the popular bar/restaurant in town (The Wise River Club) recently got a new co-owner.
Interestingly, the popular bar/restaurant in town (The Wise River Club) recently got a new co-owner.
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It made me a bit sad to think that they were destined to end up on the dinner table. There is a lot of ranching in the area. I must have missed a relatively recent cattle drive because the highway through town (Wise River, MT) had a lot of cow pie remnants on it.
Interestingly, the popular bar/restaurant in town (The Wise River Club) recently got a new co-owner.
![](https://www.elmoremagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Billy-F-Gibbons-1-Photo-by-Andrew-Stuart.jpg)
Interestingly, the popular bar/restaurant in town (The Wise River Club) recently got a new co-owner.
![](https://www.elmoremagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Billy-F-Gibbons-1-Photo-by-Andrew-Stuart.jpg)
Very cool new owner!
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I rode today and made a point to see how I steer.
At the speeds I ride I found I simply lean into a turn.
I intentionally tried to counter steer to move to one side or the other. It didn’t work. The bike simply moved in the direction I turned the handlebars. I expected this. On a motorcycle at slow speed it is the same- you steer into a turn like going around a corner.
At the speeds I ride I found I simply lean into a turn.
I intentionally tried to counter steer to move to one side or the other. It didn’t work. The bike simply moved in the direction I turned the handlebars. I expected this. On a motorcycle at slow speed it is the same- you steer into a turn like going around a corner.
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I think we had that. The argument that ensues is if you need the rear brake at all if it skids or if you will go over the bars if you lock the front brake.
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Too bad, I thought there would an announcement for some battery operated handlebar plugs, bluetooth enabled, that would be controlled by an App from your exceedingly smart phone. How disappointing!
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By counter steer, gyroscopic precession, camber thrust, and centrifugal force
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<--- waiting for bluetooth/wireless HDMI steering tech to happen.
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BITD some dude on a penny farthing realized he could lift the rear wheel off the ground and continue riding, giving birth to the unicycle. Which is steered with your butt.
My mountain uni is hard to ride on pavement 'cause the fat tire is sticky and doesn't want to turn, but offroad it's responsive.
My mountain uni is hard to ride on pavement 'cause the fat tire is sticky and doesn't want to turn, but offroad it's responsive.
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From the NIH, it sounds very simple:“Your breathing muscles include:
- The diaphragm: This dome-shaped muscle below your lungs separates the chest cavity from the abdominal cavity. The diaphragm is the main muscle used for breathing.
- The muscles between your ribs: Called intercostal muscles, these muscles play a role in breathing during physical activity.
- Abdominal muscles: You use these muscles to help you breathe out when you are breathing fast, such as during physical activity.
- The muscles of the face, mouth, and pharynx: These control the lips, tongue, soft palate, and other structures to help with breathing. The pharynx is the part of the throat right behind the mouth. Problems with any of these muscles can narrow the airway, make it more difficult to breathe, and contribute to sleep apnea.
- Muscles in the neck and collarbone area: You use these muscles to help you breathe in.
- The parasympathetic system slows your breathing rate. It causes your bronchial tubes to narrow and the pulmonary blood vessels to widen.
- The sympathetic system increases your breathing rate.”
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