1939~ Paglianti
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1939~ Paglianti
Some of you may be familiar with this thread, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-dropouts.html . And after swearing off ever restoring another bike, I am complete with this one.
All pics here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...th/53511628856
As I wrote in the original thread, I saw the dropout on FB marketplace and did not hesitate. To the best of my knowledge, it is a second generation Campagnolo made from 1934-1939. I restored this particular bike to a 1939 model due to the extreme difficulty, and expense, of finding all the bits and bobs for an earlier version. There is evidence this frame was built prior to 1939. First is the front dropout and front hubshell barrel are for an 8mm solid axle. Neither will fit a 9mm QR axle. I have seen evidence of this practice in 1936 in Italy. Also, at sometime the rear hub was converted to a solid axle, making the derailleur obsolete. That solid axle had cones stamped FB 35 indicating made in 1935. When all this happened is anyone's guess, but I like telling a full story.
Nickel-plated frame. I recreated the decal artwork from a number of sources and had varnish-slide decals made. The cambio corsa derailleur is a second generation, 5th version. I estimate its production as 1938-1940. Stem and bars are Ambrosio, date stamped 1939. The calipers and levers are Universal Model 39s with prewar cable clamps. The hubs and crank are FB, stamped Paglianti. The chainring is featured in the 1933 Doniselli catalog. The pedals are reproduction (I am fairly certain they are not original, but proper for prewar road pedals) Sheffield Super. If you have original Sheffield Super, I'll buy them. Fully domed seatpost (you will have to take my word) and a Super-Rosa Calolziocorte saddle.
I haven't gone for a ride yet, roads still have plenty of salt on them.
Paglianti 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 08 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 19 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 37 by iabisdb, on Flickr
All pics here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/681231...th/53511628856
As I wrote in the original thread, I saw the dropout on FB marketplace and did not hesitate. To the best of my knowledge, it is a second generation Campagnolo made from 1934-1939. I restored this particular bike to a 1939 model due to the extreme difficulty, and expense, of finding all the bits and bobs for an earlier version. There is evidence this frame was built prior to 1939. First is the front dropout and front hubshell barrel are for an 8mm solid axle. Neither will fit a 9mm QR axle. I have seen evidence of this practice in 1936 in Italy. Also, at sometime the rear hub was converted to a solid axle, making the derailleur obsolete. That solid axle had cones stamped FB 35 indicating made in 1935. When all this happened is anyone's guess, but I like telling a full story.
Nickel-plated frame. I recreated the decal artwork from a number of sources and had varnish-slide decals made. The cambio corsa derailleur is a second generation, 5th version. I estimate its production as 1938-1940. Stem and bars are Ambrosio, date stamped 1939. The calipers and levers are Universal Model 39s with prewar cable clamps. The hubs and crank are FB, stamped Paglianti. The chainring is featured in the 1933 Doniselli catalog. The pedals are reproduction (I am fairly certain they are not original, but proper for prewar road pedals) Sheffield Super. If you have original Sheffield Super, I'll buy them. Fully domed seatpost (you will have to take my word) and a Super-Rosa Calolziocorte saddle.
I haven't gone for a ride yet, roads still have plenty of salt on them.
Paglianti 01 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 04 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 08 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 19 by iabisdb, on Flickr
Paglianti 37 by iabisdb, on Flickr
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gotta luv it!
have your researches determined how far back go the Ambrosio I-beam/girder alloy road stems?
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gotta luv it!
have your researches determined how far back go the Ambrosio I-beam/girder alloy road stems?
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I certainly remember when you first mentioned with pic of the dropout.
Looking at this bike speaks for itself. Stellar throughout. The research, workmanship, preserving history. Such a treat and thanks for sharing!
Looking at this bike speaks for itself. Stellar throughout. The research, workmanship, preserving history. Such a treat and thanks for sharing!
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Also, I fell into a rabbit hole researching this early Campagnolo stuff. In that research I have documented 23 different rear dropouts with teeth for the derailleur system and 15 different rod-operated rear derailleurs by Campagnolo. And those are the minimum as I expect there are more versions out there.
If you want to get really bored learning more about the variations, I will be giving a spiel about them at the Auburn show.
If you want to get really bored learning more about the variations, I will be giving a spiel about them at the Auburn show.
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Awesome job and bike.
I think you had expressed regrets about refinishing the frame but I think it's very tasteful and the right choice in this case.
I think you had expressed regrets about refinishing the frame but I think it's very tasteful and the right choice in this case.
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Wow! I don't know what else to say.
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Nice!
Will we get to see it in September?
Will we get to see it in September?
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Gorgeous. Just once I'd like to ride a bike like it to experience the shifting aspect.
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Stunning! Glad to see such an interesting bike is back amongst the living.
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Very nice job . I can’t imagine the kind of dedication it takes to put something like that together. Thank you for sharing . Joe
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That is a beauty.
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What a beaut! Purely curious - what does it weigh?
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Handsome result.
best appearing FMB tires I have seen, sidewalls are not “albino”.
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Wonderful. So many great details. Even the seat badge is a treat.
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Amazing rebuild, great work.
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Paglianti 37 by iabisdb, on Flickr[/QUOTE]
Very nice, but I doubt Bartali would've ridden it...
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Paglianti 37 by iabisdb, on Flickr[/QUOTE]
Very nice, but I doubt Bartali would've ridden it...